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Buck & Don Teles - years?

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by Rumblur, May 11, 2019.

  1. Rumblur

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    Buck and Don had several Tele's over the years, we all know this. I know Buck had a 50's white one that was in a fire at some point, and then of course the silver and champagne sparkle guitars in the 60s. What I would like to know is, a chronological order of years when they got / started using the different guitars. And, if at all possible, what blackface amps they used.. I've seen Twins and Deluxes, and I know Brumley used a Super with a 15" at some point. Really don't care anything at all about the tweeds or Gibsons, but blonde/brown/black Fenders - yes, info please!
     
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    Good questions... re Tele's, I do recall reading somewhere that at least Don preferred his 50's Tele tho CBS (possibly Leo, who was working there) didn't like how worn it looked on the telly so they were given new sparkle finish ones. I believe these had the transitional logo which would put them circa '65/'66. The show debut'd in 1966 so this would make sense.

    You can see Don's 50's tele on this epi of the JD show..



    On this appearance it seems the new Tele's make their debut... note blackface amp..

     
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  3. davidge1

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    They had an endorsement deal – I think pretty much played whatever Fender gave them.
     
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    Then they had a Gibson deal for a while, but that wasn't the right thing.
     
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    Great thread. Have no expertise in this matters, only interest. I will follow.
     
  6. Rumblur

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    I know they had a Fender deal, then Buck got mad at Fender (they wouldn't pay) so he went with Gibson in 1970 and then back with Fender after that, and that's when he "borrowed" the Mosrite "salesman" color scheme as his trademark. What concerns me in particular, is the year of which the silver and champagne guitars are.
     
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    I think you can safely say they are circa '65, lastest '66. Episode #1 of the Buck Owens show debut'd in 1966. The 2nd Jimmy Dean vid above shows them both playing them (its harder to tell since its b&w though the body binding is visible) so that would put it as early as 1965. Also notice that they are all using blackface amps, where as in first JD vid, (where Don is playing his 50's Tele) Holly is plugged into a white tolex bassman head so it would seem to me they got their Fender deal between these appearances on the JD show. Here's episode #1 of TBOS and again notice all black face amps... the transitional Fender logo can be seen on both guitars.



    Just found this tdpri thread as well - http://www.tdpri.com/threads/buck-owens-silver-sparkle-tele-red-white-blue-sparkle-tele.62422/
     
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    so the general consensus is the silver sparkle and gold sparkle Tele's were 1965 and/or 1966 models?
     
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    Good news for Buck. His haircut is trendy again.
     
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    Looks like a '65 Fender Villager.
     
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    The Fender Villager was a 12-string with the "hockey stick" headstock. I owned an unplayable Villager back in the same era.
     
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    Much of the amp and guitar chronology is revealed in the (fairly) recent book "Buck 'Em". A great read for any Buck Owens fan! Still available on Amazon and from other book sellers.

    It is interesting to read Buck's "somewhat sanitized" version of his own lifestyle (he recorded the information for the book on cassette before his death) compared to someone like Keith Richard's book "Life"; both of which have significant portions of the story taking place in the 1960's USA.

    Anyway, if you want to know more about the guitars it is in there...Bucks favorite amp was a beloved 4X10 tweed Bassman, later recovered in black tolex, that he and Don toured with and played out out of together as a duo. He once said that amp was the best because "it would get the highs without thinning out too much".

    Buck
     
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    In “Buck ‘Em” he says he bought his first Tele (used) in 1951, and the pic of him playing at the Blackboard Club (1951-1958) shows a blackguard Tele.
    Another pic of him in the studio in the 60s shows a blonde Tele with an 8-screw white pick guard.
     
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    A couple weeks ago I was at the Songbirds Museum in Chattanooga Tn. They have Don's sparkle Telecaster on display. If I remember correctly (I'm old...haha!) they said it was a '64.

    -Shawn
     
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    There’s one of Don’s at the Country Music Hall Of Fame....
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    I'd read him saying that was his favorite, and someone posted about them repairing/restoring it for him. The "blackface" years were crippled tonally IMHO, because he EQ'd the records to sound good through the single crappy dash speaker of a chevy pickup truck. Had he had the foresight to tune the amp for a full rich sound, good grief... TONE for days! I'm no fan of the nasal tweed sound, but I can see where in his time and place it was useful.
     
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    A TDPRI member...lerb21... knows that stuff and has posted extensively about it

    Search him up and enjoy your reading
     
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    From what I have read Bucks white tele was a 1962 with an early 50s neck and the silver sparkle was a 64. Gotta love Buck
     
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    When I think of Don Rich, I think of a pointy object headed towards my eye. He had the tone that cuts like a knife - a "Buck" knife, lol.
     
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    Is it just me or are the Saddles screws really bent on the silver tele?
     
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