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British Blues-Rock. What Do I Need?

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by Paul in Colorado, Aug 20, 2016.

  1. Paul in Colorado

    Paul in Colorado Telefied Ad Free Member

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    I was playing the Tele through the Vox AC-15 today and went off on a British Blues/Rock tangent. I was playing Yardbirds, Cream, Led Zeppelin, Jeff Beck Group, John Mayall, Fleetwood Mac kinds of songs and was having a blast. So I got to thinking about starting a band playing that kind of music or music based on that. and started thinking about pedals I'd need. I have access to a two input 50 watt Marshall and have a nice 4 x 12" cab (or could use the Vox. Don't want to scare the children). And my Tele has a neck humbucker and I have a Les Paul as well. So those things are covered.

    Oh, and I'll need a singer. A good singer who can go play a tambourine and stay out of the way while the guitarist goes off into jam land. :D

    So I figured I'd need a wah, a fuzz and some kind of tape echo-type pedal. Maybe a low gain OD and a phaser, too? I have most of that covered, but I was curious what pedals my fellow TDPRI members would use in a band like that.
     
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    Maybe a Leslie simulator. Though I usually just use a phaser to fake that stuff.
     
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    Man!

    That is the world I live in! Everything I have is geared toward that genre.

    Here is what I use.

    I run with a vox ac15 & an orange TT.

    I use a TC HOF, and a phase 90. I'm not too into delay, but that is where I use the HOF to give some unique bigness on the "room" setting.

    I have a couple of different Fuzzes: big muff and havalina.

    Light overdrives are jhs Charlie Brown and wampler euphoria.

    Euphoria can do a good crunch and double as a fuzz as well.

    Fulltone plimsoul can do a good tube screamer impression & heavier stuff.

    I have recently discovered that I like compressors as boost for fat cleans when amp is cranking a little.
     
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    This dude wrote to ask when and where the auditions will be held. :D

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    awesome
    sounds like you're pretty much all the way there
    I guess, a lot of people use them when they could do without
    for those heavier moments
    I guess you might want some psychey delay, or even some slapback sometimes
    Woah, what? Why? Surely the low gain sound comes from your amps? Use the volume knob or your fuzz for lead bursts?

    If you're talking about 60s British blues/rnb in the way I understand you, I would think you'd more than manage with wah>fuzz>MAYBE something like a leslie sim for special effects>a big and unsubtle reverb>an appropriately cookin' amp.

    Personally, if I had amps as good as yours, I'd try and do as much as I could with just a treble boost and a good reverb either before or inside the amp. Although I might struggle to curb my need for at least two fuzzes at any given time...
     
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    If the Marshall's don't have reverb, I'd get a pedal for that. And I'd get an OD pedal somewhere in the Tube Screamer drive range. A good bit of that music calls for wahs wahs, but I probably wouldn't go that way because I don't use them well. I do, however, like listening to others play them.

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    I'm struggling to think of example of the bands you mentioned using much (if anything) in the way of effects. OK, Clapton used a wah on White Room, but that's about it. Most of them were "plug and play" guys. Beck is an exception because his hands can do any effect you like better than any damned stomp box and therefore doesn't need 'em.

    Personally, I'd just get an authentic sounding treble booster and the right amp. Clapton and Page certainly used them.
     
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    I use a Hot Rod Deluxe with a Blackstar HT DistX

    If you set up the HT right, it really has that Marshall crunch that is synonymous with said Brit bands
     
  9. Paul in Colorado

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    THAT'S MY MAN!!! Do you have his number, or do I just put out the vibes to make contact?

    Reverb? Ain't no good Marshall got reverb! (Or more then six knobs) :D

    Yeah, I think I have what I need. I was just checking to see if I forgot anything. If the amp doesn't do the lower gain overdrive, then I might sneak in a Tube Screamer. I have a Jordan Bosstone and a Barber Trifecta for fuzzes. A Budda Wah that's as good as any wah I've owned. If I want to go crazy, I have a Space Echo RE-150. A treble booster might be cool. I don't have one, but it's a simple circuit. I could build a kit to try one out.

    This could be fun!
     
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    I might suggest a time machine dialed into around 1969 or so. Use a Woodstock, NY GPS location. ;)

    I'd have volunteered to do the gig myself but my gigging tambourine is currently in the shop being re-jangled. :D
     
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    Maybe a vibe pedal of some kind.

    Or you could go Clapton and use just a wah and your Marshall. For that matter he often didn't have a wah.
     
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    This is what I was about to say. If you look at what most of those guys supposedly used is was very minimal, and often just a marshal of some sort. Ideally I would think an amp with something close to a tweed bassman circuit inside and maybe a wah and fuzz would be the most authentic sound you could get.
     
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    Snouse Blackbox for those 60s marshally/tweedy OD tones.
     
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    That is my world too! You have the amps and guitars....Rangemaster clone is all you need for dirt...maybe a fuzz or a clean boost if you cannot crank those amps into saturation.

    Strymon Flint rules for trem and verb, any Wah is good, and the Cbread Belle Epoch does the Echoplex thing perfectly.

    You need guitar swagger too, to properly get the bloozy boogie across!
     
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    Pete has swagger on this...lousy recording, muddy mix yet that Les Paul shines like a lighthouse in a hurricane.

     
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    Many shades of that era in these 3 for me, germ fuzz>BK Burn>JTM. Only other thing you might need is a touch of spring reverb.

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    Can someone show me a photo of these guys, back in the day, with all their pedals in shot? Every pic/clip I've seen shows them with nothing on the floor.
     
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    Yeah - Rangemaster, bag full of pentatonics, and a very large, home-grown cigarette.
     
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    You got the amps and guitars, probably a boost and wah pedal. They mostly plug in straight in those days. Kill them with volume! Thats what they did :)
     
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