Bridge plate effect on tone?

Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by klasher, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. klasher

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    When it comes to vintage bridge plates, I've heard it said that the type of saddles (brass vs. steel vs. titanium) have a bigger impact on tone than the type of bridge plate. Is that true?
     
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    To me it would be true..
     
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    Saddles probably more than the plate, but a thick plate will also probably sound different from a thin plate.
    Not as different as turning the tone control though...

    I am less concerned with brass vs steel saddles than traditional thin vs modern thick bridge plates.
    Thin steel plate with brass or steel saddles works for me, but I don't like the look of the thick plates so have no interest in extensive experimentation like I've done with tone, uh, sorry, body wood.
     
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    The plate is said to be part of the reason the Tele bridge pickup sounds the way it does. It effects the magnetic field from the magnet slugs.
     
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    When you're talking thin vs. think bridge plates, are you referring to the typically thin vintage type bridge plates vs. the thick modern american standard style plates?
     
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    That's BASEplate. We're talking about BRIDGEplates, not bridge pickup baseplates. The bridge plate is the plate that the saddles are mounted on. :lol:
     
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    My experience is that there is a significant difference between thin (vintage, stamped) plates and thicker ones (Rutters, Gotoh Modern, Armadillo, etc.). I'd say that thick-vs-thin bridges and saddle materials (brass, steel, aluminum, copper, etc.) could be equal in impact. Differences between stock versus boutique stamped bridges (Fender vs. Barden vs. Callahan) are hard for me to discern.
     
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    Which tone do you prefer and why?
     
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    Seems to me that the saddles do have a bigger impact than a bridge plate, but traditional Tele bridge plates also directly involve the pup, so that's another huge variable.

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    why do traditional plates directly involve the pup and am standard style bridges don't?
     
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    I prefer the 'beefier' tone of the more solid bridges. I have Rutters on three guitars, and an Armadillo on two others. I had a AV72RI and swapped out the Fender stamped bridge for a Gotoh Modern -- it added 5oz to the weight of the guitar, but it was worth it. On some guitars (body/neck/pickups) combos, it just sounds better to my ear -- more sustain, deeper sound. I am cautious about using the word 'tone' having once seen Fezz Parka's *****-slap video about using the TONE knob (ya knob!) ...

    That's not to say I'm purist. Again, it depends upon the guitar. I enjoy the sound of the Fender stamped bridge (Fender PatPending) on other of my guitars. I've come around to liking steel saddles on those; more twang to my ear. Plus the threaded ones keep the strings well in place.
     
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    Oh ... I'll add that it likely also has to do with the pickups. For instance, the guitars with thinner stamped bridges that I like are sporting Budz Purebreds and OCDuff pickups. I've got another with a Bare Knuckles in it, but I'll admit I spend most of my time with that guitar using the BK P-90 in the neck.
     
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    Seems to me the thicker bridges have more sustain and can retain more lows/low mids.(giving a fuller perceived tone) The thinner plates seem to be worse at retaining the lower frequencies and are therefore often perceived as brighter or 'twangier'

    IMO, this is the same thing I've noticed with Stamped steel saddles on strats, versus those thick modern 'block' type saddles. The thicker metal appears to have more potential for sustain, while the thinner stamped metal is perceived as bright/twangier because of the slight loss of low end reproduction with the thinner material. Just my $.02
     
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    Cool thanks!
     
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    Just to make sure I understand, when you refer to the Gotoh Modern, is that an American Standard style bridge plate? With the six individual saddles? Not like the vintage style with the three barrel saddles and the raised up edges, correct?
     
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    I like the "beefier" bridges as well. Turn down the tone, you can get near Les Paul tone.
     
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