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Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by golfnut, Feb 7, 2008.
Is the Boss CS2 a better compressor pedal than the newer CS3?
It appears to be popular wisdom on TDPRI that the CS-2 is better than the CS-3. However, I prefer the CS-3 and have used mine happily for many years; it sounds great and has been incredibly quiet and reliable.
The CS-3 has a tone control that the CS-2 lacks - this can be useful!
As usual, YMMV. I know players who have centered their entire technique around certain pieces of gear, such as an MXR DynaComp. For someone like that, anything else will seem a disappointment.
I have the CS-3 and liked it for a while then it seemed a little flat to me. I did the indyguitarist mod to it and it is outstanding now.
The Boss CS3 is the worst comp I've ever heard
I never thought too much of the CS-3, but I did take it along as an emergency backup. As a "spare" it was never stationary on a pedal board, and got bumped one too many times, I guess. One of the pots broke off (looking at them they seem to be very light duty type components) and I never bothered to replace it.
Here's my take on the whole sordid affair.
I've been led to believe that my CS3 wasn't "good enough"...so I traded it in for the Dynacomp. THEN I realize that it wasn't the pedal, it was the man using it!
Seriously, I play in 2 bands with an 18-year old "wunderkind", and HE uses a Boss CS3...and his tone is GREAT!!!
I have a Dynacomp as well, but find it to be hopelessly "mushy" when compared with the CS-3.
What I like about the CS-3 is that it can retain the "bite" of the guitar while still providing limiting/compression. With the Dynacomp, the sound is super smooth and warm, which isn't really very usable to me unless I am using a lot of distortion (which is rare).
You are absolutely correct that, as always, it is the player that makes the difference!
Indyguitarist mod +1
Me too. Got the pedal for $40 on Ebay modded it and it sounds great.
I've got a Dynacomp and like it, but it sucks so much tone when it's off and I understand it's difficult to mod it for true bypass. I'm thinking about a CS3 (which would also fit nicely on my Boss pedalboard). Any opinions from CS3 users about the tone-sucking when the pedal is off? I know Boss stuff isn't true bypass...
The CS-2 is more subtle certainly. Better? That is entirely subjective like a lot of this stuff. I have both and use the CS-2 more because I prefer the sound if that helps.
I never liked CS-2. I do have a CS-3 that I really like but it's modded, so that's not a fair comparison.
Minimal tone suckage
The CS-3 uses the same switching circuit as all the BOSS pedals, and so behaves just the same when switched OFF as all the rest.
All the BOSS pedals use a unity gain FET front end as part of the switching circuit. The result is a very consistent sound with a constant load on the guitar of 1Meg ohm, even if several pedals are chained together.
The Dynacomp uses a classic mechanical switch arrangement that changes the OUTPUT only, leaving the electrical load on the guitar in place at all times. If you daisy chain several effects this way, the load on the guitar gets worse and worse; there is no buffering.
The upshot is that the CS-3 doesn't suck tone at all. However, your signal is always passing through a little FET "source follower". As far as simple transistor circuits go, that is about as neutral as you can get.
I love my CS3 with 1/2 open WA-Wah for slide especially learned that trick from the guys with Little feat - Bonnie Raitt too.
Me too !
Many thanks, this makes a lot of sense - I bought a CS-3 and a/b'ed it with my (late model) Dyna Comp and like the CS-3 better. It's more transparent and all-around a more versatile pedal. Even at minimum "sensitivity," the Dyna Comp still squashes the heck out of the signal.
I have been through a bunch of them--Keeley,CS-3, CS-2,Barber Tone Press, Maxon CP101 T rex Comp Nova, Analogman ??--I think that's it. The Maxon has always been my favorite, but I recently switched to a Goodsell Super 17 amp and I like my old CS-2 with it, so it's back on my board.
I never liked the CS-3. The Maxon is the quietest and most transparent. But the CS-2 has a smoothness that can't be beat for me.
Like a lot of you, I don't/can't play at a high volume. Even in my cover band, we mike everthing and try to keep the stage volume down(way more control of your overall sound that way). I run at a volume equivalent to a Deluxe on three or four. For me a compressor is as must. Hope this helps...
I've been using a CS-3 for 6 months now. I saw that some preferred the CS-2 but at the time I couldn't find any for sale. Two weeks ago I was lucky to find one. My oh my! -playing country with the CS-2 you instantly hear a better sounding compression (gooble gooble - but you know what I mean) - its so sweet. I will never go back to CS-3.
I have both the CS-2 and CS-3. I prefer the CS-2, although CS-3 gets me in the ballpark and is more than acceptable to me. My limited skills do not allow me to be much of a cork-sniffer...
With Boss, everyone seems like like the earlier models best.