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Bootstrap Pickups - if I have Pretzels - what's the next set to buy?

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by don, Oct 4, 2020.

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  1. Oct 5, 2020 #21
    Veitchy

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    Nice. Looking forward to the comparison - should be some good data.
     
  2. Oct 5, 2020 #22
    casey2910

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    I installed a set of originals in my american Tele. Gonna order the palo duro set next time. Can't be beat for the price.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2020 #23
    don

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    I edited my previous post to include the message Ryan just sent me - helpful information for sure! I'll repost it here:

    Thank you for reaching out! We don't currently have Bass/Mid/Treble charts for all of our T-sets as we're currently phasing those out and using inductance instead. But! I have included a list below of our T-style pickups ranked from brightest (Retain more highs) to warmest (Retain less highs). As pickups increase in inductance, they roll off more of the higher frequencies to become more mids and bass-heavy.

    Bridge:
    Original Recipe (Brightest, lots of highs/treble)
    Palo Duro
    Pretzel
    Pretzel Hot
    Pruno (Warmest, highs/treble removed the most)

    Neck:

    Pretzel (Brightest, lots of highs/treble)
    Original Recipe
    Palo Duro
    Extra Crispy
    Extra Crispy Hot
    Pruno (Warmest, highs/treble removed the most)
     
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  4. Oct 6, 2020 #24
    CFFF

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    I think that publishing inductance values with DCR is a good idea.

    Pruno is new so I went to investigate. This is a Strat type set. Not Tele.

    They look really hot! :)

    Bootstrap Pruno™ Set for Strat®

    $49.99

    "Like the prison wine they're named after, these pickups pack quite a punch! We loaded a single coil set with .25" ALNICO 5 slug magnets and wound the h*ck outta them. A big magnet + a big coil = tons of output for loud, dirty tone."

    They don't clean up well and are not fit for polite company.

    Product photography coming very soon!

    Under The Hood

    • Forbon® vulcanized fiber bobbins
    • 43 AWG pure copper wire
    • 0.25" ALNICO 5 poles
    • RW/RP middle pickup for noise cancellation
    • Push-back cloth leads with 22 AWG pre-tinned wire for easy installation
    • Lightly potted in a mix of beeswax and paraffin
    • Chrome height adjustment screws and spring
    • ~14.8K* all positions
    *Please note that resistance values can vary. We wind to a particular wind count, not a particular resistance value. We accept a 10% tolerance on resistance values.
     
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  5. Oct 6, 2020 #25
    don

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    @CFFF he said there is a Pruno set for tele in the works - I questioned Ryan about them and he wrote back:

    It's not quite a custom wind, just not yet on the website. These are similar to Duncan Quarter Pound pickups with 1/4" Slug ALNICO 5 poles. Very high output, metal or distortion sorta tone. They don't cost any additional over the standard sets, but the neck pickup does not have a cover (To fit the larger poles it needs a larger top flatwork).
     
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  6. Oct 6, 2020 #26
    CFFF

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    @don Thank you for this. Maybe we can borrow a SD QP Tele neck cover and use that :)

    Maybe the Pruno Strat types will not have covers.
     
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  7. Oct 8, 2020 #27
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    I have the Palo Duro set and I'm sure you will enjoy it a lot! All positions sound extremely sweet. I also find the set very versatile as it growls pretty well when you add dirt or hit the strings harder. I really like the neck position in this one because it gives a warmer, jazzier sound. It was my first foray into Bootstrap pickups and it got me hooked.
     
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  8. Oct 8, 2020 #28
    don

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    @koolimy perfect - thats exactly what I'm hoping for on the neck pickup!
     
  9. Nov 16, 2020 #29
    branbolio

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    I got my Pretzel in and it’s not a good match for my super light thinline build and also pretty sharp/harsh and over powering in the middle pos and series pos. I’m thinking of swapping it for another Bootstrap pup. Considering Palo Duro, but maybe Pruno since it’s warmest but that hotness maybe too much...

    Neck pick is an Area T and I dig it a lot... what you guys think?
     
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  10. Nov 16, 2020 #30
    DeepDangler

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    The area t won’t play nice with normal pickups. It’s hum canceling and has dual magnets to pull this off. When you run it with standard single magnet pickups it will sound off. You need another him canceling bridge or different neck :(
     
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  11. Nov 17, 2020 #31
    don

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    My full pretzel set is not sharp or harsh - how does the pretzel bridge sound by itself? Are you using 250k pots?
     
  12. Nov 19, 2020 #32
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    maybe wire it parallel?
     
  13. Nov 23, 2020 #33
    Esetter1

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    Just ordered a Palo Duro for an Esquire project. I'm looking forward to hearing it based on all the glowing reviews.
     
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