Blackface Tremolo

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  1. maplestor33

    maplestor33 TDPRI Member

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    I was glossing over the schematic of the '65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue and there's a diagram on the schematic showing the shape of the tremolo waveform before it hits the roach.

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    I'm sure most of you are aurally aware of how the Blackface tremolo sounds but I thought it was nice seeing a visual representation of the wave. It's not quite square, but pretty damn close.

    I'm partial to the earlier bias-vary tremolo myself, but you can't argue that a lot of great music was made with the blackface tremolo.

     
  2. schmee

    schmee Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I had a couple brown Supers, and frankly , I can't get into that 2-3 tube Tremelo everybody raves about.
    I like the BF roach Trem better, but in a band mix, it can get gnarly or disappear too much for me.. (caveat, maybe it's the low wattage amps I use, a Twin might not...?)
    I now use a trem pedal instead and actually I love it. Comes right through the mix very nicely, even at high intensity.
     
  3. Paul G.

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    My favorite Tremelo was on my MusicMan HD130. Favorite Fender is bias vary version on the Princeton Reverb.

    Nowadays I prefer the trem from my Strymon Flint. I'm not the only person I know who bypasses built-in trem in favor of the Flint.
     
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    The bigger brownface amps like Supers had what they called harmonic trem. The small but might 6G2 Princeton has bias vary trem that only modulates the volume (no frequency component). That one is my favorite flavor of trem by a mile. I use the blackface trem on my Vibrolux Reverb sometimes but usually, when I'm not playing my brownface Princeton, I'm still pretending I am by using my Strymon Flint's imitation of the 6G2 trem. Glorious.
     
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    I agree. The bias-vary trem is by far my favorite. The harmonic trem like the Professional line of Brown amps had is cool for a while but not nearly as useful as bias vary trem, imho.

    The blackface/silver face Princeton’s (and Vibro Champs, I think) had bias vary as well, so it didn’t stop with the Brown amps.
     
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    schmee Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Yeah, my little pedal has both the pitch shifting harmonic Vibrato and the volume changing Tremelo. I never use the pitch shifting. It just sounds weird to me and not what I'm looking for. One of the best pedal deals I've ever stumbled upon. I just bought it for giggles but it ended up my main Tremelo.
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