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  1. PonyExpress

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    what is the best way to make pitch black fret markers

    black pick guard material? was also thinking epoxy died black.

    epoxy because I want to do a irregular shaped 12th fret marker so something I can pour in or mold and press in. Timbermate?
     
  2. R.S.Fraser Sr.

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    I've used epoxy a number of times for inlay.
    I would mention to run a test on how you are going to dye it.

    Some additives result in the epoxy being a bit soft and hence
    impossible to sand or buff to a gloss.
    Plus even if you use the five minute stuff, let it set for a few days to really harden up.
    Then sand it, or better yet use a cabinet scraper to avoid the sanding dust discolouring your wood.

    Aniline dye powder (no liquid) works well.
    Graphite, like lock lubricant powder works, but may not be as black as you want.

    And of course you can buy polyester dyes in small lots at hobby shops in many colours,
    for this specific purpose.
     
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    I mixed safety matches ashes with transparent epoxy once, but any charcoal could do the trick too. Just avoid producing air bubbles, but that's an easy fix too.
     
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    Seal the wood with clear before you use an epoxy inlay on a light colored wood like maple to avoid the dye bleeding into the surrounding wood. I used epoxy before and never will again.

    *TEST ON SCRAP*

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    Lots of guys around build furniture from mesquite wood, which has lots of cracks and voids.
    They all seem to use clear epoxy and graphite powder.
     
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    You could try Brownell's acraglas. It's used primarily for bedding gunstocks (just in case you didn't know) but I've used it to fill in plastic, fiberglass and wood. It comes with brown and black dye, and so far I've not witnessed the dyes bleeding into the wood. You could also see if that epoxy putty stuff comes in black. Don't know if it would polish up or not though.
     
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    I use FIMO clay from Michael's. I drilled a bunch of 1/4" holes into a piece of 1/16" thick aluminum. Press in the clay and bake for 30 minutes. You may have to figure out how to get your 12th fret design in aluminum stock if you decide to go that way. Otherwise it's a real easy way to do it.
     
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    if ya wanna do it right... get an Ebony dowel...

    Ron Kirn
     
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    I've done a lot of cold casting using 2-part plastic mix and dye for the base colour. The dyes are used in tiny quantities and the black is truly jet black.
     
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    What Ron said.

    Some epoxies have a tendency to shrink. If you make separate inlets with a mold let them sit for a good, long while before putting them in.

    Stuff like Mother of Pearl tends to be more stable with temperature variations over long periods of time.

    Plus, with wood you don't have to worry about air bubbles lingering right below the surface is a pitch black medium where you can't see them before sanding them down.

    The odds of them shrinking and popping out is sort of remote, but it is something you should take into consideration.
     
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    9-black-Color-Fimo-Soft-Polymer-Clay-57g.jpg This baked in the oven
     
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    Take a look at this. Go to 19m 36s.

     
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    WOW!! I must have seen that at some point, because I made one out of a piece of a Harbor Freight yardstick, then Hudsonduster made a real one!!

    Dang I miss that dude. :(

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    I've been experimenting with 5 min epoxy using Mixol black, and also using black timbermate.

    the epoxy with mixol is bleeding slightly passed the edge of the inlay route. Next try I will seal the pocket with clear something and see. It works well otherwise, gets hard, sands and shines nice.

    the timber mate, needs to be "hardened with super glue. I tried that but bought the gel type SG and it just sat on top. Will try again with the this watery SG and see what happens .
     
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    apoxy sculpt mixed with liquid black dye. drill fill let dry then shape your finger board. my x12 blackguard thread shows every step.
     
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