Billy Bo Palletcaster

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by RiversQC, Nov 28, 2020.

  1. Freeman Keller

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    Don't want to hijack your thread (I'm having fun watching) but here is the general idea. Make the end of the body perfectly square. Get the cheeks as close as you can, then pare away some wood next to the tenon

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    Now pull strips of sandpaper thru the joint holding it as snuggly as you can hold it and still pull. You can slightly tip it if you want to change the angle

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    The bottom is kind of tricky but keep working back and forth until everything fits tight with no gaps. And its much easier to do if the f/b isn't in the way.

    Its good to do this before you locate your bridge since is may move the neck into the body a hair and it may shift it from side to side a tiny bit.
     
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  2. Swampash&Tweed

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    Wow!Some really talented people here...........
     
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    Nice to see the build coming together. I've always dug the BillyBo shape - nice to see some folks making creative use of it.
     
  5. RiversQC

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    Thanks, all. And Freeman, not a hijack at all -- I've tried to study the technique but missed those little in-cuts next to the tenon to do the flossing. Makes total sense now!
     
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    I just find this absolutely fascinating!
     
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    I’m eager to see the progress on this!

    not taking away or trying to derail your thread, but a friend of mine made an acoustic out of pallets...It weighs as much as a light solidbody guitar, but still rings and reverberates like a mid/high grade acoustic...

    I haven’t been able to talk him out of it yet...

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    Sweet! :D
     
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    Rainy (work) day here so nothing really doing. Over my lunch I got the joint about as good as possible for now, and re-established my centre line. Marked out the side parts that I will cut away next.

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    I've been thinking about finishes from the start, of course. Here's where I'm at:
    • Has to be indoor friendly, being winter
    • I do want something semi transparent to show the top & back
    • I don't want to show the uglier and splotchy pine on the sides
    I've been onto water based stains for a bit. Here are some samples applied directly to wood

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    The last one, whitewash, really doesn't show! (Any light colours I've tried just dont show up.) Too bad, because I really liked what it gave me over roasted poplar:

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    So probably a red or brown burst.

    The black is I think necessary because that's what I think I will use on the sides (India ink with a black-dyed shellac for good measure). Plus it will give maximum contrast with the ivory binding.

    Then likely poly for toap coat. Tests okay.

    Ack to the samples, I've found the India ink blends well with the stain? I like that it gives a good gradient fade. I think I can visualize it befitting a scrapcaster.

    The fretboard...

    I'm undecided on what to use. I don't have any true scrap of the right hardness and dimension. (I love the maple board on the acoustic above!).

    My on-hand materials are:
    • Some eastern maple fretboards I roasted
    • An end of flame maple (softer? Too fancy and soft?)
    • Some walnut strips that I could laminate in some combination... in fact i could do a lot of laminating if so inclined
    I'm partial to using the roasted maple but a matter of visualizing how it will look with a red or brown finish.

    Hope you all are doing well.

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    I used to frequently laminate fretboards, as long as it's straight and the pattern pleases you go for it :)

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    I tried stopping by my local wood place to see if they had any interesting offcuts for a fretboard. No dice.

    But I have made a bit of progress this week. It's been rainy but I started by cutting and sanding to my final shape

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    And today I block sanded the exterior edge to get rid of any bumps caused by the spindle sander. Also used a cabinet scraper (which was darn cold since you really need bare hands!)

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    Ready to route for binding! Now, there are a few surprise nail bits in my piece. I thought I had removed em all way back, but a few maybe small nails, maybe brads, showed up. I'm going to leave them since this thing has holes anyway and I'd just mess things up prying them out! But importantly, they were not going to get clipped by a router bit - luckily, beyond my 7mm binding line.

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    So, went ahead and did my binding channel. That'll be something to do one of these evenings :rolleyes:

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    The shape is looking fantastic!:eek:
     
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    Thanks, Derek! This is always my favourite part, after the hard work to make sure everything's square and before the finishing :lol:
     
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    I decided on some maple from my stash for a fretboard. Here it is:

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    It doesn't look like much yet because I've got some work to do. My local place sells these surfaced "bat blanks" for $2/lb. This one was less than $8, what a deal. I can rip them to get a good five rift- to quarter-sawn fretboards as follows.

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    I cut off 2 today. Planed one side

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    Then got to 1/4" on my (brand new) thickness planer. It was on for a good price, what can I say, though it feels a bit like cheating :)

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    With the board acclimatizing, I thought I might bandsaw a taper into my neck. (I've routed in the past). Kept outside the line. Used my belt sander to clean that up and also shape the headstock.

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    Finally, small but important step: since my fretboard blanks are quite long, plenty of 1/4" scrap to fill in my overly long truss rod channel. (You might recall I am repurposing an old neck blank). Glued a piece in to be cleaned up later.

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    Yeppers, waste not want not :)
     
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    Nice work - looking good.
     
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    I do the same thing with maple turning squares for quartersawn fretboards.... actually I started in the 80's when I was making jackson soloist copies. A friend of mine took me to a mill on the NY/PA border that sold turning squares in small quantities. I selected quartersawn ones for necks too. I continue that trend today with all my neck wood. I purchased 12/4 Honduran stock years ago and then cut it and orient it slash or quartered.
     
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    Mad skills here! I would have lost a finger by the first page of OPs posts.
     
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