Beato - Most Complex Pop Song of All Time

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  1. Whatizitman

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    Nope. Far more interesting to post in a thread about it.
     
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    I stopped following Rick a few months ago due to the constant clickbait, but I enjoyed that video. As "jazz guys" we find ourselves feeling quite intelligent until some progression like that comes to scramble your brain.
     
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    He spends twenty minutes discussing the chord progression of the song. How is that clickbait?
     
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    Ok. I actually enjoyed that. I'm officially a hopelessly gone nerd. I blame you guys.
     
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    I started to come up with my own answer for about six seconds, and then decided that I just don't care. I don't listen to pop music for complexity. Or any music for that matter. For pop music I want catchy and fun.

    For my money, it just doesn't get any better than this, complex or not

     
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    Hey, I know that singer, Joe Pizzulo.
    He's from my hometown.
    A family friend married his brother.
    I've seen him in his early bands and we followed Brainchild around, they were the regional supergroup.

    I'm glad to see him being used in an example of something good. :cool:
    Admittedly, at the time it was considered cheesey pop sell-out for a guy who fronted two of the most respected rock bands in town.
    There's no denying it's a well crafted song.
     
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    I love "Say It Isn't So":

     
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    Actually an SG Special (2 P-90’s… Dr. Pedantic here…)… Beato’s chording is outstanding and his analysis is first rate.
     
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    I always get the '50s Les Paul versions of the Jrs. and Specials confused. I only know red and TV yellow -- and I just learned in Vintage Guitar magazine that there were a handful* of factory black Juniors as well.

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  10. TokyoPortrait

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    Hi.

    That song is, to me, perfect.

    A perfect reminder of how it does't matter how complex, interesting, intellectually stimulating, demanding, or fascinating a work of art is, drivelling boring drivel is still drivelling drivel.*

    Pax/
    Dean
    * opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of those who don't hold them...
     
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    Tempted isn't even one of Squeeze's top ten songs.
    Cool for Cats
    Up the Junction
    Pulling Mussels
    Take Me I'm Yours
    Etc.
    It's a well crafted song, but it doesn't rock and it doesn't hit. It's a ballad I guess.
     
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    This one is fascinating, too.

    Makes me realize that I'm almost completely ignorant about music.

     
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    Beato video:
    Never Going to Let You Go
    by Sergio Mendes.
     
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    I think an appropriate title would have been "The immense complexity of Never Going to Let You Go"

    By leaving the song out, he's trying to artificially create interest and curiosity. By claiming it's the 'Most complex pop song ever' (a claim impossible to establish), he's trying to create controversy (I already had a song in my mind when I read the title, namely Across the Universe, and I felt the urge to click just to check... I didn't). So, the whole thing is clearly and blatantly designed to manipulate you into clicking.

    Beato has clearly been studying some kind of YouTube manual on how to increase traffic. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but it does put some people off (including myself). I am doing my best to avoid doing things that I feel manipulated to do... which is kind of ironic considering such manipulation still determines my behaviour in a sense. :confused: And, judging by the trend, soon I won't be able to watch any YouTube video! :lol:
     
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    Actually his videos are so much worth than any of those gear demo youtubers, haha.
    BTW, I don't like his teaching style. He puts way too much emphasis on chord scale theory (CST) when he explains songs. CST itself is fine and useful of course especially when you are teaching, but often can be used too easily to mislead students by not so great teachers.
    If you listen to those young cats today, that's the result of education heavily relying on CST. In other words, pure garbage. They believe improvising is just a whole bunch of colorful scales over complex chord changes. What a shame.
     
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  17. Mad Kiwi

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    I enjoyed your post but this thought did pop into my head...

    He does make a video to try and "establish" his reason why he claims it is...

    Not at you specifically ,but haven't we all grown up with headlines in newspapers, magazines etc, doing exactly the same thing?

    Personally, I think Rick is the least of our concerns in the "click bait" debate. Given he makes a video trying to establish WHY his videos are named the way they are.

    Real clickbait doesn't even do that, to me anyway.
     
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    Disclaimer: I don't feel as strongly about this as my post might suggest.

    I have in the past watched a lot of his videos and the guy clearly knows his stuff and produces mostly great content. I think that annoys me even more to be honest... the idea that he does not need to be clickbait-y.

    Another factor that might explain my annoyance (a lot of self reflection here! :D) is that I am an academic. And to me, titles need to be concise and informative. If they are not, mistrust emerges almost automatically.

    And yes, we all grew up with those headlines in all sorts of media. And such headlines have a lot to answer for... but that's another topic, and a clickbait video on a song certainly does not have anywhere near that kind of consequence. :)
     
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    I enjoy most of his videos. I just don’t like it when one of his videos gets pulled and he literally pitches a fit about it. Instead of making a video of what and why it was pulled and the steps he can take to combat it, he usually wines for about 30 minutes about it.
     
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    Nothing written and produced by SAW belongs on this thread :)
     
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