Beatles '65 with a Fender Amp Live?

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  1. Fullmoon07

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    It’s a colorized black and white photo
     
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    The only two photographs in this thread are in B&W...
     
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    The only "keyboard" player for Beatles live performances between 62 and 66 would have been John, on a Vox Continental Organ, and it would have been stage left.



    That must have been from an intro act.

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    I didn't say it never happened, I said that it was unusual to see them using amps other than Vox. I'm not sure of the specifics of the agreement, as it was something I read in a book a long time ago, but I think it was primarily for concerts and other such public things. Probably something that happened early on when they weren't fully established yet, but I can't say for sure.
     
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    Doesn't really matter about the amps. The deafening sounds of thousands of teenage girls would have rendered them practically useless. :cool:
     
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    Pete Townshend actually referenced the early Beatles' audiences a few years later in 5:15...

    Girls of fifteen
    Sexually knowing
    The ushers are sniffing
    Eau-de-coloning

    The last two lines refer to the stench of urine from all of the teenage girls wetting themselves at Beatles concerts, and massive amounts of cologne were used by the ushers in an attempt to mask the smell (so they couldn't smell it, not to try to cover the whole building).
     
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    A totally brilliant shot.....where d'you get it?
     
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    According to a Total Guitar article in 1996 by Mark Cunningham this is the history of Beatles amps from 1962 forward:
    They exclusively used Vox from Summer of '62 thru 66 US Tour.
    1962- Vox-T60 60 watt Bass amp and Vox AC30.
    1963 -Vox 100 watt head with McCartney's T60 cab (1x12" + 1x15"), Vox AC50
    1964- Changed from Vox AC50 to AC100
    1966-Vox 150 watt amps with 4x12 and a horn in the cab.. these were used to power Vox Super Twin was (2x12") for the Sgt Pepper sessions. Additionally Fender Showman was used on sessions for Revolver.
    1967- Fender Showman and Selmer amps were used
    1968-70- The Fender Bassman 100 became Paul's bass amp of choice. John and George switched to Fender Twin Reverbs and stopped using Vox. Lennon also used a Fender Deluxe for the Revolution promo film.


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    In 1960, John used a Fender Deluxe and George had a Gibson GA-40.
     
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    I have a book of Beatles gear. The Epstein agreement was Vox on stage. In the studio, as soon as the post-WWII UK trade embargo on US goods came off, George and John sent Mal the roadie off to buy Sonic Blue Strats - George turned his into Rocky, Epiphone acoustic electrics and Fender amps. There's studio pics of blonde large amps, plus Silverface Deluxe and various other goodies still in boxes.

    The Beatles did use Vox SS amps for their effects. You can hear it on things like the lead to Taxman.
     
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    It's 3 knobs on the left and 6 on the right on a Showman, and it looks like that it is. I saved the pic and zoomed.

    Interesting is that British power strip near that amp. Or maybe it's something else.
     
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    John's amp was a Vibrolux, his cousin still has it.
     
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    Dig the early blonde Fender with ox blood grille cloth in the upper part of that photo. In the first photo, with 6 pots in the left channel, the amp is either a Showman or a Dual Showman....the difference being the output transformer.....8 ohms for the ?Showman and 4 ohms for the ?Dual Showman. Here is a pic of a 1964 Dual Showman....at that time there was no indication on the front panel as to which OT was in the amp. Yes, that is a Po Sonic cab in which this Dual Showman is in.
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    According to Andy Babiuk in Beatles Gear (2002) page 39, it was a Deluxe.
     
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    They had Fenders in the studio before Epstein died.
     
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    There are photos (I don't have time to search at the moment) where four knobs are visible. And John's cousin David came forward with the amp since 2002. So Babiuk's information is out of date. I don't know if he has corrected it in the subsequent revision.
     
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    At least three - blonde Bassman, black Showman, black Dual Showman.
     
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    I was going off of my memory from a book I read many years ago. As was already clarified above, the agreement was Vox amps only on stage. :)
     
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    I see 3, but it is hard to tell.
     
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