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Bass: Short Scale, floppy strings

Discussion in 'The BASS Place' started by schmee, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. schmee

    schmee Doctor of Teleocity

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    next question: Why are string sets labeled "short scale" or "long scale" Do I have to worry about using long scale on a short bass? Just the other way around right?
     
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    No, you've just got to trim longer string ends. No difference except length.
     
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    I don't like flatwounds at all but many seem to.
    Round wound gets more snarl and twang, which can be eq'd out if you don't like that.
    Maybe some also prefer the feel of flatwounds?
    Slides do squeak with round wounds, so if you slide a lot of fretted notes...
     
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    The tuner end is often wrapped with descending reduction of windings, so the portion in the tuner posts is less fat and more flexible.
     
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    buster poser Friend of Leo's Platinum Supporter

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    I've got a Mustang bass (and I just put a set of Ernie 'Short Scale' Slinky on it (40-60-80-100). As above, I believe they're only shorter in length with the taper starting sooner (32.5" per Ernie's site)... no difference in wind/tension.

    They feel okay to me, but I have a fairly light touch and do a lot of rest-muting or whatever you call it.
     
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    I leave snarl and twang for the regular guitar. There's only so much frequency to fill.
     
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    I am awfully squeaky on the round wounds. "guitarist attempts to play bass' syndrome! :eek:
    I guess I'll go with flats at 45-65-85-105
    Thanks guys.
     
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    We’ve got d’addario .045-.100 flats on a mustang and eb regular slinky .045-.105 rounds on a SS stingray. Flats do decrease squeaky finger syndrome, but aren’t optimal for slapping, if that’s what you intend to do.
     
  9. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's

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    The round wounds that came with my TMB-30 were really bright. Couldn't stand it. I am looking for a fairly old fashioned tone most of the time.

    I used to have a full length bass with round wounds on it and yes it does have a distinctive tone. It just didn't matter that much. I currently have a Carvin fretless as well and of course that has flats on it.

    I vastly prefer fingers over using a pick but I don't play often enough to keep my right hand calluses in shape. Flats help with that too. Taking off a callus with a bass playing blister is pretty unpleasant.
     
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    Rounds are even better on fretless!
     
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    One day I happened upon a Yamaha bass in a used instrument shop that was strung like that. After I stopped laughing I did a run-through of the main riff from Big Black "Crack Up".
    I drooled on myself a bit...
     
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    Understood, and true of course.
    Some bass in a mix is wooo wooo wooo wooo.
    Rounds add all the harmonics that needn't interfere with the fundamental unless you want to include or add them with eq.
    So bwaaa bwaaa bwaaa is there, or bwooo bwooo bwooo, down to wooo wooo wooo.

    I find adding highs to flats can't get back the harmonic content that is simply not there with flats.

    Again of course, if you never want something there's no need to have access to it.
    Funny though the idea that flats last so much longer?
    They (round wounds) just sound more and more like flats sound when brand new!
    Eeeeewwwww!
     
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  13. schmee

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    "mama don't lah no bass slappin' roun' here..."
     
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    Does she let you perform in any of the more notorious RHCP getups?
     
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    I've got La Bella Low-tension flats on my shorty Jag and they feel great under different attacks.
    Would be an expensive try unless yer a Flats fan, tho...
     
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    OK, got the flatwounds and put them on. Not without some issues though:
    The .105 E string will not fit the tuner hole in this Jag Bass! So fair warning to others. I had to carefully peel back some of the string wrap, pre bending it to keep it from coming apart so it would fit in the tuner. These flats (and being bigger) seems like a good move so far!
     
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    Kind of, most fatter bass strings have a taper and many bass strings have thread wrappings, and it's better practice to keep the widest part of the taper off the post and different length sets allow you to ensure only the wrapped portion gets curled on the post.
     
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    Check the tension charts...flats by their very nature are stiffer than roundwounds.

    That being the case, I would NOT necessarily go up a size in gauge before trying a flat set in the gauges you're already using.
     
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    Are these actual shortscale strings, or regular/long scale?
     
  20. schmee

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    They are full scale as I couldn't find short scale in 105's... at reasonable cost anyway. I probably should have just went for 100's.
    Strange to me that tuner holes aren't just made for all. These are like Kluson guitar tuners (but bass tuners) with the center hole and slot you stick the string down into.
     
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