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Alcohol will damage or ruin the finish on lacquer guitars. :!::!::!:
Ballpoint pen ink on my 52RI--how to clean off?
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Alcohol will damage or ruin the finish on lacquer guitars. :!::!::!:
3 Chord
Friend of Leo's
+1
Ive used the Tuff Stuff with great success used it what seems like forever since the late 60's.
MickM
Poster Extraordinaire
NAPTHA.... will take the ink off the guitar and off of the case lining with no trace. The guitar will be easy, the case will require squirting the naptha/lighter fluid on clean paper towels and using a pulling motion. Don't rub in circles.
I just used it today to get tar out of my pants. Tar is gone with no trace. Also the odor from the naptha evaporates quickly. You won't smell it when you open the case in a day or 2.
Show us the results when you're done. Also I stand behind the following statement. THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE ACETONE IN THE SAME ROOM AS A WOODEN INSTRUMENT UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE A VANDAL.
I just used it today to get tar out of my pants. Tar is gone with no trace. Also the odor from the naptha evaporates quickly. You won't smell it when you open the case in a day or 2.
Show us the results when you're done. Also I stand behind the following statement. THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE ACETONE IN THE SAME ROOM AS A WOODEN INSTRUMENT UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE A VANDAL.
TeleTim911
Friend of Leo's
Okay, so are you going to share with us how this happened, or is it "nunya"?
Chet Johnson
Tele-Afflicted
Goo Gone will get the ink out of the case and leave a nice citrus smell. My guild x-170 was in a basement flood, I drained and repaired the guitar, and shop vac'd the case out. Mistake, that sucked the carpet glue up into the case lining. So then the guitar in the case got covered in glue.
I fought the glue with everything I could find but itin was hard to get all from The lining. Goo Gone was finals the fix. .
I fought the glue with everything I could find but itin was hard to get all from The lining. Goo Gone was finals the fix. .
Mr_Martin
Tele-Afflicted
I found this on the BIC Site:
What tips do you have for removing Ballpoint pen ink? Roller, Gel or Highlighter ink? Dry Erase ink?
Important: A word of caution before trying any of the ink removal methods suggested below: some surfaces and fabrics may be permanently damaged by the use of hair spray, rubbing alcohol or all-purpose cleaners. If in doubt, test on a "hidden" area first. There is no guarantee that these removal methods will be effective.
Writing instrument ink is designed to write on paper or other writing surfaces. It contains certain ingredients that could stain certain types of materials and fabrics. Although we cannot guarantee or be responsible for any stain removal method, we would suggest you try the following methods:
For Ballpoint ink we recommend an alcohol-based hair spray. The alcohol content in the hair spray will break up the ink. If the ink is on clothing, saturate the item with hair spray. Be sure to place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain to catch the excess ink. You then need to blot the stain with a rag. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual.
If the ink is on anything other than clothing, spray the hair spray directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
Our Roller, Gel and Highlighter inks are water-based and we recommend trying an all-purpose cleaner instead of hair spray.
If the ink is on clothing, saturate the item with the all-purpose cleaner. Be sure to place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain to catch the excess ink. You then need to blot the stain with a rag. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual.
If the ink is on anything other than clothing, spray the all-purpose cleaner directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
Dry Erase ink is erasable only on dry wipe surfaces, but is permanent on other surfaces. In certain conditions, it may be possible for the ink to be removed by using an alcohol wipe or alcohol on a cloth or paper towel. If the ink is on clothing, pre-wash the item as soon as possible and then launder as usual.
Permanent Marker ink. Permanent ink is intended to be permanent and cannot be removed. However, in certain conditions, it may be possible for the ink to be removed by using rubbing alcohol. If the ink is on clothing, place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain. Then gently dab the stain with rubbing alcohol using another rag or paper towel. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual. If the ink is on anything other than clothing, dab the rubbing alcohol directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
For All Inks: If these suggested methods do not remove the stain completely, we suggest contacting a professional cleaning company or the manufacturer of the stained item. They may have other suggestions or be able to professionally remove it for you.
Source:
http://www.bicworld.com/en/pages/faq/
What tips do you have for removing Ballpoint pen ink? Roller, Gel or Highlighter ink? Dry Erase ink?
Important: A word of caution before trying any of the ink removal methods suggested below: some surfaces and fabrics may be permanently damaged by the use of hair spray, rubbing alcohol or all-purpose cleaners. If in doubt, test on a "hidden" area first. There is no guarantee that these removal methods will be effective.
Writing instrument ink is designed to write on paper or other writing surfaces. It contains certain ingredients that could stain certain types of materials and fabrics. Although we cannot guarantee or be responsible for any stain removal method, we would suggest you try the following methods:
For Ballpoint ink we recommend an alcohol-based hair spray. The alcohol content in the hair spray will break up the ink. If the ink is on clothing, saturate the item with hair spray. Be sure to place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain to catch the excess ink. You then need to blot the stain with a rag. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual.
If the ink is on anything other than clothing, spray the hair spray directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
Our Roller, Gel and Highlighter inks are water-based and we recommend trying an all-purpose cleaner instead of hair spray.
If the ink is on clothing, saturate the item with the all-purpose cleaner. Be sure to place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain to catch the excess ink. You then need to blot the stain with a rag. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual.
If the ink is on anything other than clothing, spray the all-purpose cleaner directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
Dry Erase ink is erasable only on dry wipe surfaces, but is permanent on other surfaces. In certain conditions, it may be possible for the ink to be removed by using an alcohol wipe or alcohol on a cloth or paper towel. If the ink is on clothing, pre-wash the item as soon as possible and then launder as usual.
Permanent Marker ink. Permanent ink is intended to be permanent and cannot be removed. However, in certain conditions, it may be possible for the ink to be removed by using rubbing alcohol. If the ink is on clothing, place an absorbent paper towel or rag under the stain. Then gently dab the stain with rubbing alcohol using another rag or paper towel. Repeat this process until the stain is removed, then launder as usual. If the ink is on anything other than clothing, dab the rubbing alcohol directly on the stain and then wipe off with a clean paper towel or rag. You might need to do this a few times depending on the size of the stain.
For All Inks: If these suggested methods do not remove the stain completely, we suggest contacting a professional cleaning company or the manufacturer of the stained item. They may have other suggestions or be able to professionally remove it for you.
Source:
http://www.bicworld.com/en/pages/faq/
allen st. john
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In order.
Water. You know that's not going to hurt the guitar if used with care.
Naptha: That's what luthiers use on nitro finishes.
My guess is that one or both will clean the guitar.
I would be very, very, very careful about using anything else.
You can take this to a luthier and they'll fix it for the price of a few sets of strings.
But if you bubble the finish, you're looking at hundreds to refinish, and hundreds more in lost resale value.
If you're determined to do it yourself, you might ask at the Finely Finished subforum, where guys have a good handle on what will and won't harm a nitro finish.
Much terrible, but well-meaning advice above in the thread that would ruin your guitar forever.
DO NOT USE HAIRSPRAY WHICH CONTAINS ALCOHOL.
DON'T USE NAIL POLISH REMOVER WHICH CONTAINS ACETONE.
Lots of the commercial cleaners are going to have solvents that will eat your finish.)
And whatever you use on the case will come into contact with the guitar, so....
Good luck.
Water. You know that's not going to hurt the guitar if used with care.
Naptha: That's what luthiers use on nitro finishes.
My guess is that one or both will clean the guitar.
I would be very, very, very careful about using anything else.
You can take this to a luthier and they'll fix it for the price of a few sets of strings.
But if you bubble the finish, you're looking at hundreds to refinish, and hundreds more in lost resale value.
If you're determined to do it yourself, you might ask at the Finely Finished subforum, where guys have a good handle on what will and won't harm a nitro finish.
Much terrible, but well-meaning advice above in the thread that would ruin your guitar forever.
DO NOT USE HAIRSPRAY WHICH CONTAINS ALCOHOL.
DON'T USE NAIL POLISH REMOVER WHICH CONTAINS ACETONE.
Lots of the commercial cleaners are going to have solvents that will eat your finish.)
And whatever you use on the case will come into contact with the guitar, so....
Good luck.
Guitar Rat
Tele-Meister
Good news update!
Alright, after reading the suggestions (and ignoring the comments to use acetone on nitro
), I put down $2.29 on a can of Rave Mega-hold hairspray and broke out an old, ratty T-shirt.
I discovered quickly that soaking the shirt and then putting a little elbow grease into it when I rubbed got rid of the ink with ease--no damage to the finish at all. I'd advise anyone who (unluckily) is in the same spot as me to do the same--making the shirt really wet takes a lot of the work out, and makes sure you're not doing a primitive sandpaper job and being harsh on the guitar.
I have a bit more work to do, but I got about 95% off, and it's night and day already after about an hour's work. Haven't gone after the case yet, but that's not really a big deal in the grand scheme right now.
I took a few pics, not taking much time with flash or focus--so no, the hair spray DID NOT turn my butterscotch to a pale blond in the first "After" shot. There has been no, I repeat, NO, damage to the finish with this method that I have been able to note.
BEFORE:
AFTER:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
Thanks so much for the good suggestions everyone. This was far less painful (and easier) than I thought it would be 48 hours ago. I'll hopefully be able to update on the case tomorrow when I have time to work on it.
Alright, after reading the suggestions (and ignoring the comments to use acetone on nitro
), I put down $2.29 on a can of Rave Mega-hold hairspray and broke out an old, ratty T-shirt.I discovered quickly that soaking the shirt and then putting a little elbow grease into it when I rubbed got rid of the ink with ease--no damage to the finish at all. I'd advise anyone who (unluckily) is in the same spot as me to do the same--making the shirt really wet takes a lot of the work out, and makes sure you're not doing a primitive sandpaper job and being harsh on the guitar.
I have a bit more work to do, but I got about 95% off, and it's night and day already after about an hour's work. Haven't gone after the case yet, but that's not really a big deal in the grand scheme right now.
I took a few pics, not taking much time with flash or focus--so no, the hair spray DID NOT turn my butterscotch to a pale blond in the first "After" shot. There has been no, I repeat, NO, damage to the finish with this method that I have been able to note.
BEFORE:
AFTER:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
Thanks so much for the good suggestions everyone. This was far less painful (and easier) than I thought it would be 48 hours ago. I'll hopefully be able to update on the case tomorrow when I have time to work on it.
grinchmonkey
Tele-Meister
Someone mentioned Amodex. I just came across this product as someone got Sharpie on my leather seat in my car. Their website says it'll get pretty much any stain out of anything, so it might work on the case for you. As for the guitar finish I don't really know what will damage it, so I don't want to recommend anything.
I haven't used the Amodex yet to know if it works, I just have purchased it based on their website and other internet recommendations.
I haven't used the Amodex yet to know if it works, I just have purchased it based on their website and other internet recommendations.
