Bakelite sheet source

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  1. Tedecaster

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    With the flurry of pickguard posts, particularly the Tor-tis thread & Jack Wells continuing search for bulk P/G material, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows where to get sheet Bakelite stock (for '52 style guards)?

    Fender is back-ordered on their re-issue P/Gs & I wouldn't mind making a Bakelite P/G for one of my basses.
     
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    bakelite

    i got a bakelite pg for my tele a while back from terrapin. you could ask that guy where he gets his sheets. sounds like that stuff is kinda brittle to work with though. you might just want to have him do it. cant remember the price but it wasnt to bad and it fit perfect. google terrapin to find the site.
     
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    Just thought I'd kick this thread back in gear...Fender and Allparts are still eternally back-ordered on Esquire bakelite pick guards and my patience is getting thin.

    So, does anyone have any ideas where to find sheets of bakelite?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Shortly after I posted that (month or so), Ron Kirn posted a thread about getting some bakelite sheet. It was available from industrial supplier McMaster-Carr, in various sizes, under the name of Garolite (black only, I think). I got a sheet about 30 X 40, with shipping for around $30. I'll see if I can dig up the thread.



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    Yep, MMC is a very good outfit to deal with.
    Thanks for the info and interesting thread link!
    Good stuff...

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    +1 on McMaster and their garolite sheets. $5 for a sheet of Bakelite/garolite big enough to cut two pickguards and $5 dollars to ship. Ordered on a Tuesday and got it on Friday. Makes a perfect "bakelite" pickguard.
     
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    Another vote for McMaster. Just make sure you order plenty of material, it chips and cracks pretty easily. I didn't get a usable PG until my 3rd attempt on my blackguard replica, good thing I ordered enough to make 3!

    Lacquered, wet sanded and buffed, it makes a very pretty PG.
     
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    The guy who asked the question hasn't checked in here for 8 years...just sayin'...
     
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    I appreciate the information on this!
     
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    WDMusic appears to have Bakelite for Esquires.
    http://www.wdmusic.com/fender_esquire_pickguard_esq_544.html
    I use one of theirs on my Baja and I'm happy with it.

    Edit: Zombie thread. Nevermind.
     
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    I use black acrylic sheet that I get from the handyman store. It isn't authentic, but if looks OK. If I want a different colour, I get clear acrylic and paint if from the back.
     
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    Dumb question that's bugging me... What the heck is bakelite? How is it different than plastic? I have one of each on both my 52's. One is shiny. That's the only difference I can see. Bakelite... Sounds like food. Diet food. Baked chips.
     
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    Interesting. Thanks. I guess I coulda googled it. I do like how it looks better than modern plastic.
     
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    Finally I've got some real trouble: Mcmaster does not seem to like private persons in europe as their costumers. What does people in europe use for "bakelite" pickguards?

    Wow, I've already learned quite alot since starting my tele project.
     
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    Bakelite Pickguards were used on the early Teles. Broadcasters,, Esquires, etc., 'till the mid 50's when it was replaced with the less expensive, less labor intensive and easier to work Celluloid plastic.

    Those guitars are known as Blackguards, the bakelite was black.

    many feel it's a superior product than any of the plastics that it was replaced with due to the appearance. It looks like something you would find in a Mercedes as opposed to something you would find in a Ford..

    It also shrinks, warps, bends, etc., less than the modern plastics

    Other 'n the optics.. there's no advantage one way or the other..

    here's a thread I did a decade ago about using it...


    http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecast...59-another-lazy-saturday-piuece-garolite.html



    Ron Kirn
     
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    Thank you Ron, that's really inspiring.
    But i still stuck with the quastion: Why is "bakalite" three times as expensive in europe than in the states? This subject makes me utterly frustrated. A guess would be something about environmental law... Maybe time to let this go and settle for something cheeper.
     
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