Authentic Tadeo Gomez signature/initials or forgery? Any opinions on this "1952" Tele?

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  1. PeterUK

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    I've got my own, personal D stamp!

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    It looks perfectly fine to me. Lucky you. More pix would be appreciated ;)
     
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    Hi Wally. I am in the LA area. Can you suggest some of these people who could do an assessment? I will be posting more pics of the guitar over the coming days. Thank you.
     
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    My 52 has as well!
     
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    The 5 looks like mine in '53

    Neck Date.jpg
     
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    D stamp looks correct.
    TG I have seen in script and block with and without dots. Neck and body look correct from what we have seen.
     
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    Here is a picture of my verified TG 51 neck. Hope it helps.
     
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    And there is one that I have never seen in person. I have no doubts about Twisted's neck there---I remember the guitar from the thread, TwistedK. It is simply that there are at least 3 distinctly different types of TG initials. I am most familiar with the squarish format...all lines in the G are straight lines. Then, there are the rounder G's with not as quite as bold of a T as in the squarish form. And...this flourish that Twisted's neck has...with the T and G above and separated by the truss rod nut. It makes you wonder if Tadeo at different times was a quality control type of person who would inspect a neck and say...It's good. Initial it....and the person who had built the neck wrote the TG and date on the neck????? I doubt that this is what happened....but why some many ways of initialing 'TG'?? Did Tadeo have the sense of humor and the forethought to imagine messing with our heads?? (;^) Or did he just get bored with the style at times and change it?
     
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    Verified by who? Do you mind me asking?

    :) Peter
     
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    You’re thinking is similar to mine. I guess we’ll never know.


    It will never be proven or dis-proved. I like your thinking.


    I like this idea but the feedback from his family suggested that he was totally oblivious to his legendary status.

    :) Peter
     
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    All Star Guitar here in WA, Fender recommended them. Gold star rating, yada yada... I was trying to get a COA through Fender at the time. (never again)
    The whole story & details would be in my thread Wally mentioned. "Original 51 NoCaster advise wanted." I believe it's just down a couple threads at the moment.
    Since then it's been looked at by Emerald City Guitars (twice), Mike & Mike's Guitar Bar (Cool place!) & did some guitar porn for the Fretboard Journal. All of them went OVER my Nocaster & confirmed everything for me.
    The ECG video we did is in my thread as well. It also has a 50 & a 54 in it.

    Here is a link to my thread.
    http://www.tdpri.com/index.php?threads/610871/
     
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    A little known fact, when people see 'TAD" on a neck heel, they think it is the revered Tadeo Gomez, in fact it means This Area Down, it was simple instructions to the guitar builders.

    Yes, this was a failed attempt at humor.
     
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    Awesome! Thanks for the background. I don’t recall the original thread. I’ll look it up.

    :) Peter
     
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    As others say, Tadeo had several different ways of writing his name and initials. But I’ve not seen one quite like the neat, straight, spaced initials on the neck. I’m thinking it’s not genuine. The body cavity initials - not sure. But both together seem very careful and neat. Don’t see that in other examples. Check around.
    Then again, the numbers on the neck look like Tadeo’s...
     
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    Something seems to have escaped discussion here .... the OP says that this was sold to him in 2000 and the discovery of the TAD initials, etc., was recent happenstance. As the previous seller in 2000 apparently did not seek to benefit from the potential illustrious heritage, it seems unlikely that the inscriptions were falsely perpetrated for profit prior to 2000. So three options remain more viable - that the OP is not coming clean on heritage, or worse, is testing the efficacy of a fake, or finally, that this is the real deal. Because the former two would be (1) brazen and fraught with traceable recriminations, and (2) the OP is apparently seeking the most reliable regional authentication, it seems to support the "real deal".... I just thought I would bore you all with my Sherlock Holmes razor-like analysis, totally devoid of considerations of actual physical evidence .... :cool::eek::lol: . Best of luck to you, BodhiSM!
     
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    The lack of follow-up pictures doesn't bolster the case for authenticity.
     
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    I was going to say I have never seen TG initials on the body but the Duchossoir book clearly shows TG initials on the body where the neck sits.

    My 53 has a Tadeo signature on the neck and a different initial on the body where the neck sits.
     
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