Art & Lutherie Guitars..?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Jeru, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. Jeru

    Jeru Tele-Holic

    Nov 17, 2006
    So, I'm kind of on the hunt for a second acoustic. I play acoustic
    guitar mostly for me (not out or at shows), so I'm not looking top-tier
    (or likely even medium-tier given what instruments can cost). To give
    you an idea of where I'm at, my main acoustic is an old Yamaha SJ-180,
    given to me by a friend who took a few lessons as a boy but never really
    took it up. I think it's an 'ooo' sized. The internet seems to describe it as
    "between an OM (Orchestra Model) and a 0000/M Grand Auditorium size."
    In any case, the important bit for me is that it's smaller and slightly thinner than a

    SO -- My main criteria are 1) concert size and 2) playability, as in will
    the thing stay in tune, can it be set up properly to have low action, etc.
    Electronics would be a plus, but not a deal breaker.

    Art & Lutherie is a brand affiliated with Godin/Seagull, made in Canada.
    I really like what they're doing aesthetically (legacy/Concert Hall Series):


    Anybody have any experience with these..?

    There aren't a lot of them around used, which could mean that folks who buy
    them hold onto them.

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  2. Steve Holt

    Steve Holt Friend of Leo's

    May 29, 2016
    Get one now and don't look back.

    I'm mostly an electric player but I finally bit the bullet on an Art and Lutherie Legacy Concert.

    I liked it from a lot of what you described. It's shape, and color were most important to me in buying an acoustic on the internet sight unseen.

    But it stays in tune really well and has really good, low action. Better than most acoustics I've ever played really. Sound is good too.
  3. Freeman Keller

    Freeman Keller Poster Extraordinaire

    Aug 22, 2018
    Art and Lutherie is the parent company with a number of different product names including Seagull and Godin, as well as A&L itself. They are popular enough that they even have their own discussion forum

    I have mixed feelings about A&L guitars - I like their use of sustainable tonewoods and I used to recommend the S12 as one of the best bang for the buck 12 string guitars on the market. However I am also a builder and repair person and I have seen a fair number of A&L guitars cross my work bench. Most common problem is that the bolts in the bolted butt neck joint loosen and they look like they need a neck reset, but really don't. However when they do finally need it there are some models that used epoxy for the f/b extension and the repair tech can't get it off.

    A second thing that bothers me is that I saw one A&L guitar with a very thin bridge. I thought it had been shaved but a friend who is kind of a Seagull expert told me that they actually use different thickness bridges to compensate for some of the neck angle issues. As a builder I happen to think that there is an optimum thickness for the bridge.

    So, bottom line, I do like them but I don't like them enough that I would want to own one. If you come across one that looks like it has a bad neck angle check the attachment bolts. They should have a little belleville washer to allow for expansion.
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