Are some Fender spares factory rejects?

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  1. rob2

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    Fender have a noble history of letting nothing go to waste.....but recently I've come across some spares that are really sub-standard....a vintage-style Tele bridge that had evidence of more than usual levelling on the bottom and was still nowhere near flat,a poorly plated JM trem arm and now this blackguard which looks to be unlacquered....it has the very smooth,satin dusty grey appearance of a Hosco "bakelite" item not the deep glossy black I'm accustomed to on production US vintage guitars over the years and I believe on the American Originals too though I've not seen one of that series yet.....this is 07 I believe.. DSCN5266.JPG DSCN5265.JPG
    you can see how similar it looks to the tiny chipped section of the factory guard.Sharp edges too....equivalent of around $75 here in Europe too....
     
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    Not come across this, but the stock pickguard on my PV52, which was Bakelite was replaced with identical, as the original was cracked in half. It was hairline, but noticeable all the same.
     
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    I bought an early Highway 1 in 2004 and was shocked that the bridge pickup had no metal shielding and was earthed/grounded to a holding screw.
    Also the steel 3 way saddle could not be intonated by anyone ( in comes a Gotoh 6 saddle bridge).
    Pickups were replaced with A3 Toneriders on advice from Kelvin Ho in Singapore.
    It said , still does , made in USA which I doubt. After a new nut and good set up ,it's a fine guitar, but I doubt up to standard originally.
     
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    My '96 American Standard had the same thing. Really robbed the telecaster-ness of both pickups...I too replaced the pickups with something better.
     
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    One thing I see missing in these posts is where you bought these "spares".

    Sure, Fender is susceptible to quality control issues just like any manufacturer.

    Honestly, my first inclination would be that the parts are not genuine Fender.
     
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    No. Fender doesn't sell unfinished or bad parts.

    Bear in mind that detail varies between years. It's quite possible they sell or sold both lacquered guards at different times.
     
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    I am confused with the term "spares". Would this be the same as "parts" here in the States? I have not encountered a problem with genuine Fender Parts.
     
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    Exactly right,its the same as "parts" your side of the pond!...they are genuine Fender for sure..I've kept a lot of the packaging to show clients they're getting the real deal..they're usually coming from Fender main dealers like Thomann and parts specialists like Banzai(Germany) or Emma Music France) mostly since Brexit....and that's the other funny bit...we have fairly strict rules on Country of Origin labelling here in the EU...some of the spares are an eye opener!
    "American Strat standard tremolo arm Made In China"
    "Orig Vint Tele Control Plate Made In South Korea"
    "Screw 4x1/2 slot head Made In Taiwan"...these are the early 50's spec pickguard screws!!
    Though in fairness to Fender these parts were all faultless...and the return label for the guard is already through,I've got most of the warp out of the original guard so jobs all good! DSCN5289.JPG DSCN5286.JPG DSCN5285.JPG DSCN5284.JPG
     
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    Glad I only saw this now as I was fairly holding my breath earlier today trying to sort the other!:eek:...thats very unusual though,they're actually very tough,its a wonderful material,the same material used for the circuit boards in Fender amps for years
     
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    Friday afternoon, or Monday morning guard maybe. Could have been just a weakness in the material though.
     
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    I bought a new, Genuine Fender Vintage Tele bridge once, and when I went to install it, it wouldn't lay flat! That there, is a reject!
     
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    I buy ten of the plates, then inspect them and use the best 5 of them.

    Mark Davis always suggested we get out a sheet of fine sandpaper, and using a flat, hard surface, further improve the flatness of these very hastily made plates. Good advice, but don't make the body surface and underside of the plate so compatible that they want to bond together - a little bit of wax or other release agent is not a bad idea.

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    I get my Fender brand "spares" from Darren Riley, these days and everything I buy is routinely made in USA. I'm wondering if FMIC has farmed out the sales of "Fender" parts to other contractors, for out of USA markets.
     
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    Purely speculation here, as I don't know what the laws are, but could it sometimes come down to different country of origin laws in the US and EU? The same part labelled differently for each market? It often comes down to definitions and the fine print.

    I've been looking at replacing a trapeze tailpiece on a cheap hollowbody recently. I look at cheap tailpieces on Aliexpress and see what looks like the identical unit on US websites for 3 times the price. There's nothing to tell me it isn't just bought in bulk from the same factory and rebranded.

    BTW I have bought Fender parts from Darren Riley and was totally happy with what I received.

    I was in need of a lefty Tele bridge plate and had been researching the effect of bridge plate thickness, and came across a few of your posts recommending a thinner Fender plate. (Many thanks!) He also had lefty Glendale saddles so that sealed the deal. The partscaster they went into turned out great.
     
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