Are Local Bands Getting Worse?
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Charlie Bernstein
Doctor of Teleocity
No, they're not.
They couldn't.
They couldn't.
Charlie Bernstein
Doctor of Teleocity
I didn't know folks had lost interest in Queen or Nirvana. For me, they're change-the-station-quick acts, but it doesn't seem like they've ever dried up and blown away. Not around here, anyhow.
Anyhow, those players don't interest me, except maybe sociologically. Performing, there's not much I like less than playing with people in tee-shirts. Or baseball caps. Or cargo shorts. Or sneakers. Please don't walk on stage looking like you're about to mow the lawn!
We will, we will mock you. . . .
Was talking about the younger generation's alleged loss of interest in all things rock (or possible lack of loss of interest, for that matter).
cousinpaul
Friend of Leo's
I think I get what Von is saying. It's unlikely you'd see any local cover bands on a typical Nashville visit. The locals are mostly relegated to playing biker bars, marinas, rib joints, and various neighborhood spots. Strip away the tourism, the music industry, and the constant influx of folks who come here to make it, and you're left with a scene not unlike any good sized town.
chris m.
Doctor of Teleocity
I like the point. But that's kind of like saying the same about Las Vegas. Strip away the casinos and the tourists and it's just like any similar sized city. Or Manhattan-- get rid of Wall Street, the skyscrapers, Broadway, the pizza, and the museums and it's pretty much like any big city. Yeah, I guess....
On a related note, when I travel abroad I like to live in a regular neighborhood and hang out with regular people doing regular stuff. A much better way to immerse myself in the culture and the language than to hit the tourist attractions with a bunch of other tourists. Sure, I see a few of the sights, but I try to spend the bulk of my time just hanging with the locals and seeing what it's really like to live there.
It's somewhat surreal to think about how there are billions of people going on about their lives who would barely notice if where I live, everyone I know, and a fifty-mile radius around it were blown to smithereens. Just as our daily lives are barely affected by most foreign wars and disasters.
cousinpaul
Friend of Leo's
Sorry Chris. Didn't mean to type cast anyone. I may have been reaching a bit to make a point.
Charlie Bernstein
Doctor of Teleocity
Dunno. I saw a girl with a Nirvana shirt on yesterday. And the Kurt and the band have never disappeared from the music magazines.
Maybe they went out of fashion, though. Could be I just haven't been paying attention.
Now, if I saw a kid with a Deadly Nightshade or Lothar and the Hand People or Joy of Cooking or Blues Project shirt, that would be newsworthy. . . .
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It has been claimed that all rock has gone out of fashion with the younger generation. Whether that's true is however open for debate.
Charlie Bernstein
Doctor of Teleocity
Sure haven't noticed it.
But some people's definition of rock 'n' roll is narrower than others'. For instance, I have a niece who thinks rock and rock 'n' roll are two different things.
421JAM
Tele-Afflicted
Keith Richards agrees with your niece.
She's not alone though. Just ask Malcolm Young's (RIP) spectre.
And for a bloody good reason too.
burntfrijoles
Poster Extraordinaire
I rarely go to places featuring live bands unless I know the group. The last time was many years ago. I can't say that I was impressed even back then. I think it just depends on the area and expectations. If an area has a shallow talent pool it might be rough. Also, I think even amateur guitarists expect more from bands than the typical patron.
I don't gig so I'm not judging. I think I'm a decent guitarist and I can learn most tunes but I've never had the guts to perform other than in church.
I don't gig so I'm not judging. I think I'm a decent guitarist and I can learn most tunes but I've never had the guts to perform other than in church.
Charlie Bernstein
Doctor of Teleocity
Yup. No one owns a definition of rock 'n' roll.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but when I see someone bring this up in a small market. I'm guessing VT is a small market. I wonder why you need to audition? What happened to the bands you were in before? What happened to your network of people?
I do agree, that folks don't "get" dynamics. I know my band does not. That's why bands need a "leader" or someone who will speak up and say "stop banging the damn drum over top the lyrics..." (or some version of that) or "maybe lets get through 4 bars of intro before everyone throwing in fills." Many people want a "democratic process" or "we don't need a leader". Yeah, yeah, you need someone to make a decision or remove the suck
Knowing the material means listening to it (once) on the way over.
Mostly cover bands here in my rural area. There are cities nearby, but I haven’t ventured into them for awhile.
I sort of follow this one cover band. They are a 3 piece, with an occasional guest lead singer. They are a tight unit with a stellar guitar player. They play regularly at the bar just a block away from me. They play from 3-6 on Sunday afternoons. (How ‘bout them hours?)
I agree, a band needs a leader. I was that person 22 years ago when I had my last band. I was that guy who had to remove the suck.
I booked all the jobs, used my basement for practice, set up auditions, printed business cards and posters. I never took an extra cut for my efforts.
I ran the band like a business (like it’s suppose to be run). I tried to be as democratic as possible. I encouraged other band members to bring new songs to the table, but I had the final say if those songs were worthy of being added to our repertoire.
I was constantly asking band members about songs and what they thought about what we were doing. Is this song too hackneyed, is that song too pop?
421JAM
Tele-Afflicted
All one has to do is look at the lineup of a music festival like Pitchfork, Bonnaroo, Primavera, Glastonbury, etc., then look at pictures of the audiences. Rock bands, young people. It's not open for debate, at least not in good faith. Young people still like rock music. The problem is there are lots of other styles of music they like as well. Rock doesn't dominate the way it once did, but that doesn't mean young people don't like it.
Flat6Driver
Poster Extraordinaire
Look at a modern "Bro Country" act lineup and see how that compares. That's where the girls* are. Those things are packed. Not saying they don't go to the other shows, but the country acts clean up. I live near Jiffy Lube Live and see the crowds for the Luke Aldean shows.... packed. and hot.
*persons assigned female at birth.
Rock bands, young people - OK, but how is their liking of lots of other styles of music besides rock a problem? I'd also like that nothing was changed from the days of my r'n'r youth in the 70's and have said so on occasion when I'm in my cups, but hey, that's just the boomer in me blethering
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