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Are independent coil taps really useful?

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by TX_Slinger, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. 985plowboy

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    I did not know that.
    I stand corrected.
    What does it do?
    Circumvent/ cut off some of the windings to make it weaker in output?
     
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    I have an HH guitar with such an option and I do use it.

    Using the neck humbucker full with the bridge humbucker split adds some extra bounce to the middle position. I use this sound to cover songs played on guitars like Casinos or other dual P90 guitars.

    Using the neck split and the bridge full yields a very 80-ish lead tone in this particular guitar.
     
  4. brookdalebill

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    Most humbuckers sound scrawny and anemic when tapped/split/whatever.
    For this reason I rarely use coil splitters.
    The Seymour Duncan Stag Mag is the only pickup that sounds good when split/tapped/whatever.
     
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    I never had much use for a split-coil humbucker in the bridge position of HH guitars I've owned. I did like having a split-coil Duncan 59 in the neck postion of a Hamer Sunburst I used to own. I got good s/c neck pickup tones out of that one, but never really used them in combination with the bridge h/b.
     
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    Exactly that Cavalier Pickups has a Tele pickup with such capability. There may be others too.
     
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    And on the usage I'd say that if a person always has their controls dimed, then they probably aren't going to like it.

    I have a couple high output humbuckers that sound just as good as a Strat single when split, much like the Stag Mag.

    I just installed a set of SD PRails and everyone that wrote reviews said that the mini-rail pickup alone was awful, but they sound quite decent in the guitar that they're in to me. That particular guitar is very resonant which could be a big part in why I liked them, but also because I like to try other control settings than all the way up at all times.
     
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  8. GuitarsBuicks

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    I wrote the following as a response to the question of why coil-tapping exists in a thread I started a few months back. I think it applies to your question if you get a good set of Humbuckers.

    "It exists to give you a guitar that has humbuckers but can do a decent imitation of single coils. It also provides unique combinations not entirely available on any guitar with out coil splitting.

    For example If you had an Ibanez Jet King I or II which is a two humbucker model with a three way switch and individual coil splitting: i.e. splitting the humbuckers into single coils. You now have a minimum of six combinations. without say, in the middle position running the neck as a bucker and the bridge as a single or visa-a-versa. You know have eight combinations that sound fantastic for everything short of death metal. That is not counting anything you could get from changing the guitars tone settings. You are now looking at a minimum option set of 11 (Tone wide open, tone totally closed off, tone half way off) distinctive tones ranging from single coil Jazz on the neck to full on Rock 'n' Roll Les Paul style tones, to clean Tele Jazz and British rock, to a decent imitation of a Strat quack (if its set up correctly). That is all from a two know, three way, with individual coil splitting set up from an Ibanez pawnshop style guitar. It is not uncommon to find newer Gibson Les Pauls and SGs that have push/pull pots that allow for these coil splitting options either. It is also good to note that these switching combinations can be added or augmented further with more switches and/or adding more push/pull pots.

    Now there are some guitars that feature less options for coil splitting such as an HSH Ibanez Gio for example. These guitars typically feature a five way switch that splits the coil providing a bridge single coil (Most likely the one closest to the bridge. Although Ibanez uses the side farther from the bridge for some reason.) and the middle single, much like an SSS Strat would in the fourth position, and a single neck and the middle single, much like an SSS Strat in second switch position. (Again usually the outside coil. Although again Ibanez uses the inside one for some reason on some models and the outside on others. Don't ask me, I don't work for them.) This type of coil splitting is slight less useful though no less of a set up. It does place some limits on the number of options as it is only those that are wire to the switch, and taking out the other combination options. This kind of set up also provides you with a full neck Humbucker and a full bridge Humbucker in the first and fifth positions respectively. The third position is variable depending on the guitar, usually its the middle single, however there are a few models where it is all of the pickups on at the same time.

    The Big Apple Stratocaster specifically features a double humbucker set up with a five way switch. The normal switching options for a Big Apple Strat are Neck full, neck split (coil closest to the neck joint), Both full Humbuckers, inside neck coil (farthest from the neck joint) and split bridge (coil closest to the bridge), and Bridge full humbucker. This provides most of the Strat tones we all love, while also providing more "umph" if you will in the first and fifth positions. Possibly even some "Gibson-esque" tones if you do it right. again this does place some limits on your tonal variations but still provides more options than the standard SSS option. Therefore making your guitar more useful.

    In short it takes your three trick pony to (Bridge-both-neck three position or five way strat switch) and turns it into an all genre work horse. Yes you do get some slightly different tones, and the volume drops can be a slight problem, however if you anticipate it correctly you can compensate as still sound like you know what you are doing. Personally I like having the extra options, and the tone does not suck as badly as some people would claim...although there are always exceptions.[/QUOTE]
     
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  9. Billy3

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    I just did a wiring with 2 hum, 2 volumes, 1 tbx tone, push pull on both volumes(one series, one out of phase). I also added 2 on,on,on mini toggles for series,split, parallel for each pup. It's basically a Page set up with only one tone. There's a lot of options on this ax. It gets everything you could want. I think all these options would probably be tough in a live setting. Very versatile and awesome at home or recording I would have to say. I'm still working on what sounds best with what. I have found that the split coils sound similar to parallel in a way, but there is noticeable difference, especially in oop. I think I like the diversity. Don't want to keep rambling. I think I'll just keep on pickin!!!!
     
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    wired up with separate splits (cts/mojotone push/pull). Leaving it that away for a few to see if it I bond with it.
     
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