Are Gibsons worth their price point?

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  1. 1 21 gigawatts

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    All depends on who you ask and what they value.

    To me, Gibsons are not worth it but neither are Fenders. I say this, because you can get Epiphones or Squires that are 95% the quality at 50% the price. I've always been a "best-bang-for-the-buck" shopper vs "best". If someone disagrees because they place a higher value on the name, they aren't wrong either. It is great to have options. That's why guitars at every price point sell.
     
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    Are Gibsons worth their price point?

    In the past, yes - at least still at the time I bought my used 1980 Gibson ES-335TD LH, that is to say in 1980 :

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    Today, I don't think so. Instead, I would buy an Epiphone.

    You can't imagine how fine plays and sounds this LH 2nd hand dead cheap Epiphone LPS II - once DIY modded, that's right, but for a nearly negligible cost compared to any Gibson :

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    I would say and do the same with Fender and Squier :

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    The sole drawback would be the availability of the model in LH, in fact.

    But it's me, OK ? :D

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    Over the years, I've had 3 different Gibson Les Paul's, A Gibson SG and a Gibson Les Paul Special with P90's. I was never able to bond with any of those guitars. I have had 2 Gibson Sonex Deluxes which I absolutely love. I still have one. Whats wrong with me? I prefer the cheapest Gibson out there. :twisted:
     
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    Of course they are. They're built in the USA, and to some degree harder to make than Fender guitars, so if one doesn't bock at $2k for a Fender why would they for a Gibson?

    If it's your thing then they're worth the price! FWIW Les Pauls and SGs are worth it, despite the latter costing more than a full grand less. I really think that anyone in history would be totally happy with my 05 SG Standard. It's a very, very nice instrument that I'm thankful for everyday.
     
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    Hey, guitars are cheap -- mandolins are expensive! I have owned two Gibsons in the last few years, a "faded" 335 that I never bonded with, kind of dead-feeling, now gone, and a Tribute Les Paul that was / is cheap & lively & fun to play. $799 new in a nice hardshell case. Played great straight out of the UPS truck and still does. This doesn't seem exorbitant money for a nice guitar.
     
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    To some, no... to some yes..

    its kind of like others bashing 3-4k fender guitars from custom shop and they're just bolted on.. and bashing Gibson for absurd prices (well this is a fact most of the time lol) and outrageous quality control..

    I'm a Fender guitar lover, but I'm also a Gibson owner.. the price of my 330 is mind numbing to me, thats the most I ever paid for a guitar, but the MIC/MIK/MIJ Epiphone Casino that I tried just simply cannot compare as they are a different guitars in its own right.. and I wanted a 330 from Gibson, but if I'll ever buy another Gibson, I for sure would wait for one to turn up used.. I'll never want to pay new price again, even if I bought mine 20% off retail..
     
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    It's all relative; depends on how much money you have and what you require in a guitar. Gibson does make some wonderful guitars of professional quality; it's up to you as to whether you can afford to pay the prices they ask. There are plenty of other guitars out there that will do the job for a lot less money though.

    IMO you can get a brand new, perfectly functional, roadworthy guitar with nice pickups and quality electronics that will last you a lifetime for $700 and up; less than that if you're willing to go used. Spend any more than that you're paying for the name and/or fancy features that (usually) don't have much to do with the functionality of the guitar. But if you've got the money, why not? I knew a multi-millionaire and he wouldn't buy a guitar that cost under $3K. Everything he had was out of the custom shop, whether it was PRS, Gibson, or Fender. He stunk as a musician, but hey, he had the means and that's what he chose to spend his money on. He also had a $120K Mercedes, and I'm pretty sure a $25K Honda Accord would have been just as functional and reliable.

    I have two Gibson SGs and they are wonderful guitars, but I sure wouldn't buy them new at today's prices and with my current financial situation.
     
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    Same here. The only one I kind of like is the Special.

    Funny thing, though, I had a LP Special for a while. It was a made in USA model, but made for the Japan market. Some crazy thing like that. Anyway, I couldn't bond with it at all, much as I wanted to, and ended up selling it.

    Then, over the summer, I bought my son one of the new Epiphone LP Specials. Honestly, I like it better than the Gibson I had.

    Seems like whenever I see new LPs in stores, about 85% of them have awful looking fretboards. Really light colored and dried out looking. Even if I wanted a LP, I would instantly reject anything that cost that much and looked so awful.
     
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    Gibsons are great .. Two things to note.

    Prices are a bit inflated right now due to COVID which has lead to increase in demand and not truly good sales currently.

    But traditionally Gibson would introduce new models for the yeah around NAMM asking for premium price .. then price would slowly drop during the year until january, where everything went on sale.

    Currently a used Les Paul is your best bet for a good deal. If you want new then it's probably an idea to wait to either this january ... or if demand continues to be high ehn .. maybe even until the end of 2021 .. if you want a good deal.

    But that is not only Gibson. All brands are currently more expensive than usual (or at least not on sale).
     
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    In 1973 I purchased a special order walnut 335 for about $400. The inflation calculator tells me that is $2345.85 in 2020 dollars (486.5% inflation rate). I would not spend that much for a Gibson now, even though it makes no sense.

    In my AMS catalog a 335 dot satin 335 is $2599.
     
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    You can play this game with any brand at any price point. There are plenty of guitars that I don't think are worth the asking price all along the spectrum. There are plenty of guitars that to me are worth the asking price all along the spectrum. At least until you get into the "collectable" range, and even those are worth it to some people.

    Personally, I've played Gibsons I liked and disliked at every price tier. The headstocks didn't spontaneously explode, either.
     
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    And it mostly comes down to what grabs you. There are plenty of people here are happy to play a bit more to have Fender on the headstocks of their teles. Why should we be surprised when other people feel the same about Gibsons?

    But I completely agree about the QC issues. Of the few Gibsons of recent vintage that I've played (admittedly not that many) the majority had obvious problems in fit and finish. Binding that looked like a road with speedbumps. Finish defects. And some of the worst cut nuts I've ever seen--one of them was at a wal-mart 80 dollar special level. Crazy bad. I also played a couple that were fantastic and had no problems at all--there are always going to be good ones out there--but I'm going to shell out 2500+ for a guitar I think you can and ought to expect better than that.
     
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    Alternatively, look at Heritage. Built in the old Gibson factory, owned by three former Gibson employees with over 150 aggregate years of guitar building experience (in the beginning), great quality control on examples I've encountered, and prices are somewhat lower than Gibson (especially used) mean great overall value. YMMV
     
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    You might like looking into Heritage guitars. It was started by the folks who made Gibsons back when Gibson was in Kalamazoo. They didn't want to move, so they set up their own company locally. They've maintained high quality and fair (not cheap) prices, while Gibson hasn't always.

    Gibson has had good, bad, and uneven stretches. Heritage has only had good.

    On the other hand, Gibson's logo is so pretty . . . .
     
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    Probably not. Nice though.
    Seller: $3000
    Middle man: $1500
    Maker: $750
    Cost: $400?

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    If you grew up when I did idolizing the late 60s and 70s rock guitarist, and Slash, you have a certain respect for them. I could not afford one until realitively recently and I am in my 40s. The first guitar I ever bought with my own money was a korean epiphone les paul, and that cost me a months salary when I was 17. They are good guitars, but in reality it was a check list item for me similar to my USA fenders. I always wanted both, but could never justify them until now. I also dont make my living playing guitar so, any guitar to me is a luxury item.
     
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    Note on Heritage: Gibson has never made electrics in Montana, I don't think. Heritage used to be made in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, Michigan -- they may still be, I don't know. And I believe that current ownership has nothing much to do with the ex-Gibson people who started it. Wasn't there a dust-up about this a year or two ago? Nothing against the guitars -- played a couple over the years that I thought were fine instruments -- but not cheap enough to overcome the hit on resale prices relative to the equivalent Gibson.
     
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    Yes...and they smell like unicorn sprinkles...:D
     
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    Buy used. You might need to look for a while, but you'll find one.

    My '82 Standard cost me $1300, and it's worth every penny. Took a while to find it, though.

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