Anyone Swear By Compensated Nuts?

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  1. 24 track

    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    not neccessarily in agreement there, squire , but aposing points of view are good , hold on to that one!
     
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    Sorry ... bridges, three saddle bridge
     
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    I follow regularly the channel of a Canadian repair man which install compensated nut in almost all guitars he has in his shop and explain at length and demonstrate by playing the guitars using the same chord all over the neck and demonstrate how accurate the guitar sounds. I'm very tempted to do teh same at least on my Martin guitar

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKC19UXnO3WDltJ6AF7R99g
     
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    Ronkirn Doctor of Teleocity

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    a compensated nut, on a guitar in the hands of a really fine guitarist, accomplishes nothing... However, put the nut on the guitar of a rank amateur, and all of a sudden he'll sound like Jeff Beck...

    While the first statement is true, if you believe the second, and guys DO believe that kinda bunk, then you need help, and I don't mean the kind that does anything to or for your guitar..

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  5. Fred_Garvin

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    I've thought about this a lot. While a compensated nut makes sense, wouldn't a zero fret pretty much eliminate the problem? I've always wondered why they aren't used more.
     
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    Woah ! That's quite a harsh statement that means that you have the proof that it doesn't do anything ?
     
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    I am really struggling to understand how they make any difference at all.

    Open String: The compensated nut is just going to result in a different adjustment at the saddle.. string length is the same note should be just as in tune.

    Fretted note: Speaking length of string is from Fret to saddle, how does the nut make any difference at all?

    Is this all about changing how much you have to bend the string to push it down to the desired fret? Is it about allowing a high nut action without the resulting sharp notes in the low frets?
     
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    Ronkirn Doctor of Teleocity

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    Wouldn't that mean that I have figured out how to prove a negative??:p
     
  9. DugT

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    It means you still haven't mentioned any fact based reason to dislike compensated nuts.
     
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    I just got an Earvana nut for the first time a few weeks ago. I love it. Every note is perfectly in tune up at the top frets. And I sound like Jeff Beck now.
     
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    Think of it in terms of splitting the difference between what is compensated from the saddle adjustment - if the nut does a "fair amount" of the compensation (think in convenient terms of like 50% of the compensation) then less compensation would be needed at the saddle and the compensation's effect between the 1st fret to the 12th fret would be roughly the same as from the 12th fret up to the last fret (21st...).

    The theory is that by making compensations at each end instead of just one end of the string - the player will have more even compensation across the neck.

    These differences in compensation have a lot to do with string gauge, action height, amount of relief as well as what/where the player of the guitar plays as well as the general as well as how the player frets each note. I don't think that anyone could really say how or if an effect of a compensated nut could even be noticed. 20 years ago I loved to use them because I could just screw just the top part of the Earvana nut directly to the top of the neck and it just worked out that I never felt the need to file nut slots and I thought they did do something; but once I got away from using them I've really never missed them.
     
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    Not for me, solution looking for a problem.
     
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    You don't understand the function of a Compensating Nut vs adjusting intonation at the saddles.
     
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    You don't know the problem.
     
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    I don't have a problem.
     
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    Me too. All Strandberg guitars have zero frets. I played one and it had excellent low action and good tone. I didn't test it to see if it solved the sharpness of fretted notes problem but it seems to me it should.
     
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    That you know of. :)
     
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    I think DugT is the problem... :p
     
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    Edit: Actually, I didn't know I had had a problem until I got a new guitar that has a compensated nut and it sounds so much more in tune than my other guitars. My hearing sucks but my tuner agrees that it is more in tune. It isn't a huge difference but it sounds significantly better.
     
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    I have been playing guitar since 1979, all of them have had regular nuts.
    I currently own 20 guitars, some are name brand, some are partscasters and some I built. All of them have regular Bone or Tusq XL nuts in their right place, all the frets in their right place(some are 24 fret) and all the bridges in their right place. The intonation is spot on on all of them from the first fret to the last fret.
    I do not need your compensated nuts, Zepfan I am.
     
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