Anyone successfully (or Happy) found an affordable/cheap Slope Shoulder (J45) acoustic?

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There were a few considerations for me. I was looking for a guitar to leave in California for when I visit the grandkids. Sound and playability were more of a concern than body shape. Cheap and good are rarely found together. Affordable is different. Affordable means to me that even if I use a card for the transaction, I have cash on hand. New or very good condition used were the same to me. In my mind, off a hanger at GC is very good condition used at best.

I found this in a small mom and pop in Claremont. I liked it so much I brought it home. I found the receipt a few weeks ago. My wife was a great negotiator. In fact she bought it. The actual purchase was under $800. The cost to me was, let’s just say less than 800, more than zero.

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The guitar is a Simon and Patrick Showcase Rosewood, Adirondack spruce over solid rosewood with a beautiful gloss finish. It’s bright and beautiful with a pick and clear and harmonically rich finger style. She’s a keeper, the guitar and wife both.
 

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I've been jonesing for a J-45..

I'm looking at a few options for an affordable J-45 ever since I played one.. I do understand the copies wont be the same, heck, the tones are not even the same for all 3 of the same J-45 standard units Ive tried.. LOL

I'm looking at

Affordables (laminate back and sides)
Cort 100SSF
Sigma JM-sg45+

More Expensive (all solid options)
Sigma (Solid) JM SG45 (all solid, adi top, hog back and sides)
Eastman E10SS
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45ME
Epiphone Inspired by Gibson J45


I found the epiphone inspired by gibson used on craigslist for 120.00.

new strings, a cleanup, a little truss rod adjustment, i love it... it is a little stiff, but it sounds great and I'll break it in, I'm not done tweaking, I can get it slinkier.
 

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I found the epiphone inspired by gibson used on craigslist for 120.00.

new strings, a cleanup, a little truss rod adjustment, i love it... it is a little stiff, but it sounds great and I'll break it in, I'm not done tweaking, I can get it slinkier.

pics or it didnt happen!!! Just kidding!

wow! thats a bargain!!
 

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I've been jonesing for a J-45..

I'm looking at a few options for an affordable J-45 ever since I played one.. I do understand the copies wont be the same, heck, the tones are not even the same for all 3 of the same J-45 standard units Ive tried.. LOL

I'm looking at

Affordables (laminate back and sides)
Cort 100SSF
Sigma JM-sg45+

More Expensive (all solid options)
Sigma (Solid) JM SG45 (all solid, adi top, hog back and sides)
Eastman E10SS
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45ME
Epiphone Inspired by Gibson J45
I've owned a Guild DS-240 for a few years now and I'm delighted with it. It's very affordable, I recommend checking it out at least. I changed the pickguard to give it more of the J-45 look (but the original was OK tbh)...
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I've owned a Guild DS-240 for a few years now and I'm delighted with it. It's very affordable, I recommend checking it out at least. I changed the pickguard to give it more of the J-45 look (but the original was OK tbh)...
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Omg, I didnt know anything about this!! yes, it's pretty nice! spec sheet is also great, although it didnt tell if its a laminate or full solid?

and I think I need to budget for electronics if I want one of these.
 

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Omg, I didnt know anything about this!! yes, it's pretty nice! spec sheet is also great, although it didnt tell if its a laminate or full solid?

and I think I need to budget for electronics if I want one of these.
Yeah I find a lot of manufacturers do this with wording, it reads: "solid spruce top and mahogany back and sides". So they say solid before spruce top but not before mahogany....which I'm pretty sure means "not solid mahogany". So I'm fairly confident it's solid top and laminate back and sides. I would check with the shop just to be sure, but I'm almost certain thats what it is but wouldn't want to mislead you if I've got that wrong as I agree the spec. sheet isn't totally clear. You could maybe fire Guild a message just to be sure.

I wasn't in need of electronics...I gig with my electrics but never with acoustic. Partly why I went with an affordable guitar, its purely a couch instrument for me but yeah that's a factor for you to consider.

I've had higher end acoustics and all solid ones, but this sits in a sweet spot for me and it's what I've settled on as my only acoustic. I think it punches above its weight.
 
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Yeah I find a lot of manufacturers do this with wording, it reads: "solid spruce top and mahogany back and sides". So they say solid before spruce top but not before mahogany....which I'm pretty sure means "not solid mahogany". So I'm fairly confident it's solid top and laminate back and sides. I would check with the shop just to be sure, but I'm almost certain thats what it is but wouldn't want to mislead you if I've got that wrong as I agree the spec. sheet isn't totally clear. You could maybe fire Guild a message just to be sure.

I wasn't in need of electronics...I gig with my electrics but never with acoustic. Partly why I went with an affordable guitar, its purely a couch instrument.

I've had higher end acoustics and all solid ones, but this sits in a sweet spot for me and it's what I've settled on as my only acoustic. I think it punches above its weight.

No worries, I didnt say you were misleading me in any way.. I see this in a LOT of companies.. They would mention Solid on the top but not on the back and sides.. Cort even had a range of guitars with Solid Top and Solid Back but laminate sides. LOL

It definitely sits in the right price range for me.. however, I wish it had electronics already! hehehe.. but thats no biggie!
 

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I got lucky and found my 66 J-50 for $250. It has a crazy skinny nut width but good lord I love this guitar. If I had to get another I would probably look at the Epi Masterbuilt.
 

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Buddy of mine got an epiphone flavored J45. Maybe aj45. He likes a lot.
Said you have to try a couple out since they vary on
playabiity.
 

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Buddy of mine got an epiphone flavored J45. Maybe aj45. He likes a lot.
Said you have to try a couple out since they vary on
playabiity.

Hopefully i get to try a few samples. The store near me gets around 2-3 max of the same model. But it’s an acoustic specialty store, so there might be quite a few different brands to try.

Looking to get some time off work today and visit.
 

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Okay, trip report!!!

I went to a store near me and tried out a few guitars thats I’m REALLY interested on.

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Epiphone Slash J-45
Sigma (Solid) JM-SG45
Sigma (Laminate) JM-SG45+

Of course, for shiz and giggles, I tried and reference this beast for tone and feel. I wanted the 50’s one but they told me it just got sold 30 mins earlier and I was late. So it’s the 60’s model with the adjustable saddle.

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The three contenders for today;

SLash
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Sigma (Laminate) Left and Sigma (Solid)

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Another photo to prove all three are there;

Epiphone Slash (Front), Sigma (Laminate - Middle), Sigma (All Solid - Last)

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First impressions are, man all these three are SUPER LIGHT!!! I almost threw these guitars up in the air when I picked them up! The two Sigmas are equal in weight and the Slash, a little bit heavier.

And here’s them three comparison. This vid is short and actually doesnt really show everything but maybe enough to “hear” all three guitars. I apologize for the slopiness, the widths and neck profile, and string spacing were all new to me lol





In the end I chose between the two Sigmas…

The Epiphone, although VERY GOOD (fit and finish is also great), feels a bit cheaper than the two Sigmas. Dont get me wrong, the build of the Sigma felt closer to the Gibson J-45 60’s.

Guess what guitar I walked out with…..

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Thank you!! yes its now included in the options!

between The BG160 and BG140, the 140 with the mahogany back and sides is the one I prefer..
I was going to add blueridge too. I tried a couple at Elderly a few years back.
But, they are another one where you really have to try each, since production
runs can be good and not.
 

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I've been jonesing for a J-45..

I'm looking at a few options for an affordable J-45 ever since I played one.. I do understand the copies wont be the same, heck, the tones are not even the same for all 3 of the same J-45 standard units Ive tried.. LOL

I'm looking at

Affordables (laminate back and sides)
Cort 100SSF
Sigma JM-sg45+

More Expensive (all solid options)
Sigma (Solid) JM SG45 (all solid, adi top, hog back and sides)
Eastman E10SS
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45ME
Epiphone Inspired by Gibson J45
I've played the Cort and I've played the Epi Masterbilt and, believe it or not, I'm recommending the Cort. Not something I would have done about 15 years ago (in regards to their acoustics), but the Cort is just a well built instrument. Fit and finish on par with value priced (but still more expensive) Martins. I found the Masterbilt to be relying on the name brand and, as such, falling to the pitfalls (poor/sloppy workmanship at a premium).

Best of luck with your search!

Edit: That's what I get for not reading to the end, I guess! Congrats on the new purchase! Good choice!
 




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