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Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by fender4life, Sep 13, 2020.
As the title asks. Model? Or if not a known model, the magnet type, gauge of wire and DCR?
It’s the pure vintage 64
I don’t know it’s specs
Same pickups that were in the A.V 64
Thank you, that was quick ! Barely fixed a few typos and u already posted !
That’s the great thing about this forum there’s always someone hanging out that has an answer
Now whether it’s right or wrong is a different story
Some pickup specs are on the last page of the service manual for each Fender model (at least for models released in 2016 and later). Here is the manual for the AO 60s Tele:
https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/...Telecaster 0110140XXX SM REV A 10-16-2017.pdf
Problem is the Fender product pages do not give the same DCR details as the service diagrams.
Neck pickup DCR between 6.6kOhm and 8.1kOhm? That covers most Tele neck pickups Fender produce.
I never double-checked the service manual against the parts product page - good point that they are different. I suspect we should use the stats on the parts product page, not the service diagram as the service diagrams appear to be done right while the product is still in the final pre-production stage (and of course Fender always uses the disclaimer that "specifications are subject to change without notice").
What am i missing.....5.4k to 6.6k? I get that DCR can change day to day depending on temp etc and that some get wound a bit more or less than others. But thats 1.2k difference which is far far more then any variation due to temperature or any other factor. Do they have blind monkeys winding these things or if not what am i missing?
As others have stated, the Pure Vintage 64 pickups. I always considered myself a blackguard pickup guy but now the 64's are my favourite Tele pickups ever made. I have them in my AO60's and I've got a set in my AmStd.
I recently found a grey bobbin Tele bridge pickup from 1966. I'd gotten it from a friend years ago but it was not working at the time. I'd sent it to Lindy Fralin for repair gotten it back, squirreled it away and totally forgot I had it until just recently. It became the center piece for a parts-caster build. Some specs are...
*Grey Bobbin with copper clad plate
*Yellow & Green cloth leads
*D String Magnet is higher than the rest
*G String magnet only slightly higher
*Alnico 5 magnets
*Fralin rewound DC resistance is about 7K, stock DC resistance is I believe high 5k to low 6K.
I have a chart with more details somewhere, but be careful mix and matching the 64's!!!!
They may be north polarity but they are wound clockwise not counter-clockwise.
If you do modern 3 way switching with another, almost any other, Fender Telecaster pickup you will be out of phase in middle position.
Holy crap, this would explain why my middle position is out of phase in my 70's Tele Custom. I put a PV64 pickup in the bridge and it's got the Fender WRHB reissue in the neck.
The 64's are good!
Flipping the wires will give you in phase, but if you are splitting the humbucker, be mindful of which coil gets used so that you can also get hum cancelling.
I learned of this 64 pickup issue in a round about way. I was doing some fancy wiring on an SSH Tele with stacked single coils and was trying to teach myself wrap and polarity. I was cataloging ALL my pickups, including some V64s I was using for a Rosewood Telecaster build.
If needed, you can also flip the polarity instead of flipping the wires which is what I ended up doing on my Rosewood Telecaster. (It's got a V62 neck pickup). Now middle position is hum cancelling.
Luckily the Fender WRHB reissue is two-wire plus ground so I was able to flip the black and brown leads and now it sounds normal in the middle position.