Anyone here ever go to physio therapy?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by PaisleyIsGod, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. jimd

    jimd Friend of Leo's

    Nov 3, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    A good therapist is the key. It sounds like you got a good one.

    When I was rehabbing from knee surgery, I had a really nice looking PT. Unfortunately my recovery was slower than I liked. She was out on vacation for a few weeks and the lead PT at the office took over my rehab. He changed up a few things and I progressed much faster.
  2. LKB3rd

    LKB3rd Friend of Leo's

    Jan 10, 2013
    Google up Dr. Sarno, and check out his books. He has alternative approaches which are very successful with some people with pain like you are describing where docs fail to find anything serious or obvious to explain the pain.
  3. PaisleyIsGod

    PaisleyIsGod Tele-Holic

    Aug 11, 2008
    I'll save these posts, sorry if I broke any rules with this thread but I find it weird that it might get deleted. Thank you all again for sharing your stories and for you advice, I really appreciate all of it.
  4. chris m.

    chris m. Poster Extraordinaire

    Mar 25, 2003
    Santa Barbara, California
    My point on pain/MRIs was not to suggest in any way that the pain isn't a serious, real thing. Rather, that doctors are only just now starting to understand how pain really works. When your shoulder hurts it is fair to assume that there is something wrong with your shoulder. But it turns out that our nervous systems are somewhat limited. The level of pain is often not at all proportional to what is really going on.

    An extreme example would be "phantom pain" experienced by amputees. For example, someone has lost their right arm from the elbow down, but they feel excruciating pain because it feels like their right hand is clenched super tight and they can't relax it. Well, guess what-- they found out that you can fool the brain. They take the patient and have him stand up at a right angle to a full length mirror. It is set in such a way so that when the patient looks down and to the right, into the mirror, it creates the illusion of the left hand being on the right side. Our lizard brain says, "oh, there's my right arm". The actual amputated right side is hidden behind the mirror. Then the patient clenches and unclenches his left hand multiple times. The optic nerve carries the visual message to the brain that the right hand is being clenched and unclenched. And, wow, the terrible, searing pain goes completely, 100% away, after a week or so of "mirror therapy" sessions. The brain's pain signaling programs needed to be re-booted.

    Hence, as testified to by many other posters on this thread, we are finding from multiple studies that what seems to be unbelievable pain can often be cured with PT and other approaches-- not surgery or pills. It's almost always worth a try first. Pills can lead to addiction and side effects, and surgery can often create many complications. By the way, to the extent that pills can sometimes work, what seems to be going on there is another approach to "rebooting" our pain systems. The problem is that it sometimes backfires, accentuating the pain levels as soon as the pills are stopped.
  5. Gassage

    Gassage Tele-Meister

    Jun 30, 2013
    Bud- I have played 158 games of professional rugby.

    As such, I've lived most of my adult life on a treatment table.

    There's so much to comment on here, however, for brevity:

    1. Your overarching question depends much on who is treating- to use a well worn phrase YMMV.
    2. In very simple terms, Physio does tissue, chiro does bone- VERY SIMPLISTICALLY.
    3. Two things you need to consider- cause and symptom. Short term chiro is great if something is misaligned, but there will be a REASON why it's misaligned that a chiro won't and cannot treat.
    4. Physio's can do so much only- homework is also key to rehab. They will advise
    5. THinking physio's are the best- people that ask why an injury happened- what are the mechanics of the movement? As a rugby player, and a wing forward, my achillies is used to both sprint (wing forward is like a linebacker in NFL- tackle tackle tackle) and push. One is a FT Type 1 muscle action, one is an FT Type 2 action and the biomechs are different- in FT1 movements, the extremes of movement are greater; in FT2 movements, the applied LOAD is greater.
    6. I have real achillies issues. 2 doctors said op time. The England Rugby physio, Richard Wergzyk, an amazing soft tissue specialist who has represented England in 160 international matches, understood my biomechanices- he has fixed it very simply with hard exercise and homework. But he bothered to examine the biomechs and didn't just look at the achillies as one tendon. Like a floating trem, every single muscle group works in the compression/tension* environment around a bone. The bone is the truss rod, the muscles the strings and springs. Looking at one injury in close isolation would be like a guitar tech fixing one piece of fret issue on an instrument and not bothering looking at why the rest of it is bad and what is causing the bad intonation or whatever.....the truth is, strings and springs work together- compresson and tension as needed.

    Hope this helps....

    *TRIVIA CORNER: only one muscle in the human body doesn't work on compression and tension- which one?
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.