Anyone Have Experience With Real 70's Decals?

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  1. tonewoods

    tonewoods Former Member

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    Hi all....

    I'm in possession of some authentic Fender decals from the late 60's-early 70's, and am having problems applying them...

    OK, each section of this P-bass decal is a seperate little decal, and I'm wondering if a binder that held everything in place is missing??
    I was thinking of applying a lacquer coat over the whole thing to hold it in place?

    This, from a friend who worked at Fender from '57 till the 90's:
    "Yes, those are the real deal. They took a special fluid to release them, they put these on and sprayed a clear coat on top."

    I tried applying one in the "normal" way, and I had patent numbers all over the place, the trademark going another, and it was just a mess...

    Anyway, anyone out there have experience with these old decals, or maybe back in the day when they were fresher??

    Love to hear all about it if "yes"....

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  2. fyl

    fyl TDPRI Member

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    Type C decals are very delicate and can't be used just like ordinary waterslide versions. You need to use Ethylene Glycol Butyl Ether (aka Cellosolve) as a solvent and follow a very strict procedure, including clear-coating the decal before application as there's no carrier film.
     
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    tonewoods Former Member

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    Wow, thanks for the quick help.....!

    Any idea what that procedure might be?

    I'm wondering whether they applied these to bare wood, or maybe clear coated first?

    Thanks for pitching in....
     
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    fyl TDPRI Member

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    Very roughly:

    Clear-coat the decal, let it dry and fully cure. Apply the solvent - no poly anywhere unless you're into el Fendero melto. Place the decal using the registration marks as location guides. Wait. The decal will loosen from the backing and transfer to the headstock. Flatten and clean very gently if needed. Let the decal dry. Finish it if needed.

    This method can very easily lead into a total mess. As vintage original decals are very valuable and in scarce supply, I would leave this job to a qualified pro.
     
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    tonewoods Former Member

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    Thank you!!
     
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    Thanks for those pics. If I may ask, how did you obtain those?
     
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    I have some too

    I have some too, bought them on Ebay about five years ago. Mine are for Telecasters though. A real bear to use but hey....... they are the real deal!
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    I bought a boxful of old decals at a guitar show, and 25-30 were these late 60's decals....
    P-Bass, Mustang, and a couple Teles....

    I have a late 60's P-Bass that I'm building a neck for, and I need to get one applied...
    The decal I ruined was pretty hammered anyway, missing some letters, etc.
    But I don't want to ruin a good one...
     
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