Anybody use a Crybaby just for the "cocked" position?

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Unrelated, but I will never forget the night in my soundco days when I sat at monitor world at a "racks & stacks" gig and watched SRV sit on a stool & work 2 Crybabies at once. Insanity!
 

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I never cared much for wah. And methinks that if its the cocked wah sound you want an EQ pedal will get you there too AND take up a lot less pedal board real estate.
 

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Anybody use a Crybaby just for the "cocked" position?
...I do love the "cocked wah" sound and find it more versatile/usable for just noodling around like I usually do...
...EHX makes a pedal, I think it’s called **** fight, that makes that sound...

THIS!!

I get great cocked sounds with BOTH the EHX pedal and a Clyde Deluxe. Both have their place.
 

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Just recently found out that Mick Ronson got his Ziggy Stardust sound by using a cocked wah, so I'm experimenting with that now. The wah is also used to bring on the funk. Even just raking the strings while using the wah can add a really full rhythm layer. Many years ago my cover and started doing Hush but we didn't have a keyboard, so I started emulating the keyboard with a funk wah strum. We now have a keyboard but i still use the funk wah and it adds a great layer to it all. It's also fun to break into a 70's porn music track sound

Other songs that use wah:
White Room (throughout)
Sweet Child of Mine (end lead)
Walk Away (outro)
Enter Sandman (lead)
etc. etc.

All that said, I stopped using a Crybaby because when I hit the switch for lead volume it screamed like a mofo - you can't stop playing of the feedback takes over. That's just my rig and my experience though. I use a different wah now.
 

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It is useful to have anyway because if you start playing with other people you are bound to to come across tunes where you can use it.
 

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I'm getting ready to trade for one, and aside from playing the classic Voodoo Child riff (ridicule me), I don't know what the hell else to do with a wah pedal. But I do love the "cocked wah" sound and find it more versatile/usable for just noodling around like I usually do. Just wondering how weird I am to trade for a wah pedal with no intention of going all Kirk Hammett on it.

just think, if it were not for Hendrix where would the wha pedal be. He immortalized it and since everyone has one in their rig or under their desk collecting dust. I have a Vox and a Crybaby that needs to be fixed.
 

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I'm getting ready to trade for one, and aside from playing the classic Voodoo Child riff (ridicule me), I don't know what the hell else to do with a wah pedal. But I do love the "cocked wah" sound and find it more versatile/usable for just noodling around like I usually do. Just wondering how weird I am to trade for a wah pedal with no intention of going all Kirk Hammett on it.
Robin Trower made a living out of that. Also Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits, "Money For Nothin'"
 

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I'm getting ready to trade for one, and aside from playing the classic Voodoo Child riff (ridicule me), I don't know what the hell else to do with a wah pedal. But I do love the "cocked wah" sound and find it more versatile/usable for just noodling around like I usually do. Just wondering how weird I am to trade for a wah pedal with no intention of going all Kirk Hammett on it.
Yeah. I bought a WAH solely from hearing a recording of a partially cocked pedal. I liked what I heard.
 

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Nice try, Big Brother.
Robin Trower made a living out of that. Also Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits, "Money For Nothin'"

Never knew there was cocked wah in that song, but now that you say it it's so obvious. I guess that's why I've never been able to nail the magic of that main riff - I've never played it with a cocked wah.
 

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I'm getting ready to trade for one, and aside from playing the classic Voodoo Child riff (ridicule me), I don't know what the hell else to do with a wah pedal. But I do love the "cocked wah" sound and find it more versatile/usable for just noodling around like I usually do. Just wondering how weird I am to trade for a wah pedal with no intention of going all Kirk Hammett on it.

I bought an EHX Cockfight pedal specifically to get that "cocked wah" sound. It does that sound really well, with lots of room to vary or modify it. It is one of my favorite pedals, although I wish EHX would not name pedals to appeal to Beavis and Butthead fanboys. In my case, the sound I was after was Mark Knopfler, who uses the half-cocked wah sound to get some great tones.
 

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Never knew there was cocked wah in that song, but now that you say it it's so obvious. I guess that's why I've never been able to nail the magic of that main riff - I've never played it with a cocked wah.

Funny thing is, I heard an interview with Mark Knopfler. Paraphrasing, he said something like "I don't remember how I got that sound. Maybe it was a cocked Wah. Yeah I think that was it.".

You'd think he'd recall how he got what became his signature sound.

But to be fair, I heard an interview with Slash where the interviewer mentioned playing "Sweet Child of Mine". Slash said "I think I played it like this ". Then he played the riff slightly differently and said "or maybe it was like this". He didn't seem too concerned with getting it exactly the same.

On the other hand, I watched a YouTube video of Robin Trower showing how he got the sound he used on the "Bridge of Sighs". He had the exact same gear, twisted a few knobs, and got it right on the money. No doubts.
 

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Vox wah fan here :)

In the conversation around cocked wah tones, are we going to forget Whole Lotta Love?

I think having the full sweep is nice. Don't see much point in a fixed wah, there are lots of nice sounds in the range, especially if you don't happen to have a neck pickup and need a quick tone cut.
 

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I got one a little while a go. I mean it's not something I wanna use every song but I can dig the sound either cocked or even full out manipulation. It's a very distinct sound though so maybe a lot of people don't like it. IDK.

I just used it in a song I recorded, just in the verse. Full out rocking and I thought it fit the song.....

 

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In the conversation around cocked wah tones, are we going to forget Whole Lotta Love?

That's full toe-position, right? It's funny, but I think "cocked" usually refers to somewhere in the middle. Can't think of a good reason why, though.
 

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This is a great documentary about Mark Knopfler and his guitars. Right around the 22 minute mark, he talks about “Money For Nothing” and his wah-wah tone from that. But the whole thing is fascinating.

 

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Nice try, Big Brother.
FWIW, here's the sound I obsess over when I talk about cocked wahs. Someone correct me here if this isn't a cocked wah I'm hearing. The section I'm talking about starts around 2:10.

 




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