Anybody tried this with a Bigsby?

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  1. TRexF16

    TRexF16 Friend of Leo's Vendor Member

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    I'm thinking over some tremolo options for an upcoming build. I know it's common to take an ashtray bridge and notch the top part of it for the strings to pass over so it can be used with a Bigsby-styled tremolo mounted just behind the bridge. But has anyone ever tried using the existing string holes in a dual load ashtray-styled bridge to run the strings through from the Bigsby? Like so:
    Bigsby Ashtray.jpg
    My sense is it might be a bit much of a break angle and perhaps hard on the strings where they pass through the bridge metal without doing something to ease the friction. So I thought about slightly enlarging the holes just enough to install the type of ferrule used to do string-through mounting on the top of the guitar. You'd have to shorten them and bevel the other side as well:
    BTSF-5-C.jpg
    Or perhaps just drill the ashtray holes out a bit and line them with some super-low friction material like PTFE which is available in rod form as small as 4mm.
    https://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/ptfe-rod-4mm-5mm-6mm-8mm-10mm-12mm-16mm-20mm-25mm-diameter.html

    Has anybody explored some thing like this?

    Thanks,
    Rex
     
  2. JCL50

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    Maybe you could find some ptfe tubing like they come with hipshot b-benders (I just installed one with the same bridge). I just had to open the holes a little.
     
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    using a Bigsby, or any tremolo with a bridge not intended for such applications is nuts...

    Guys go on and on about tuning problems.. but NOW, you're are gonna install a system that HAS to drag a string back and forth over a fixed point? Yeah, that's a good plan to be sure...

    This sounds like some lame rationale like, "I like the looks ... " or some other goofy reason... hey guys... you, me, no one, can hear how a guitar looks, you can hear how fast it goes out of tune though.

    Use a bridge designed for use with a tremolo... you'll be glad ya did..

    Ron Kirn
     
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    BorderRadio Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Bad idea, if you ask me. It adds a needless friction point, even with the bushings you’ll likely have a lot of hang ups, if not more frequent string breakage, or both.
     
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    I've spent considerable amounts of time and money performing modifications that created more problems than they solved. This smells familiar to me. :)
     
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    I have seen people put notches in the back of the plate for string clearance (and no friction).

    Edit: quick google image search and found these (on the Bigsby site, lol). They used some files.

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    Hey Ron, don't sugar-coat it man, go ahead and level with me.;)
    Yer gettin' a little soft in your old age!

    I wasn't too keen on the idea myself, just thought I ask and see if anyone had tried it without the issues that look pretty obvious just looking at it. I was a slow day so I took the time to draw it out.

    Thanks all.
    Rex
     
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    Looks like normal work than the notches
     
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    jimash Friend of Leo's

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    IF your bridge has the holes, then I think the bushings to smooth them out is a good idea.
    I think it will work. If it doesn't then there;'s always the file, or the Mastery bridge.
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    This one is for a Cab. They obviously have full size models with the pickup mounting spot too.
     
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    Barncaster Doctor of Teleocity

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    I've always loved the looks of the Bigsby trems but after a little while with a vintage Guild Starfire equipped with one, I have changed my mind.

    But there has always been this nagging thought about putting a bolt through the Bigsby's arm pivot to provide a positive upward stop and make it a 1 way, non, floating unit. This in combination with a roller bridge and ball bearing nut and we may have something. How is that new machine shop you located on base Rex?
     
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