Anybody else hate playing Specials standing up?

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  1. radiocaster

    radiocaster Poster Extraordinaire

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    I borrowed one in the 90s, and I recently played one in a shop.I can't stand how the neck goes up when I put my right arm on the guitar and when I take it away the neck drops, so you kind of have to push it with your right arm. There are other guitars which do this, but it seems extreme on the Specials.

    I don't have those problems with Standards or even the Epiphone LP-100, which have some sort of curved top.

    The ones I played were cheap Epiphones, although I kind of doubt there is much of a difference other than the weight, better finish and controls.

    The necks on them were quite good actually.
     
  2. bsman

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    Hmm - I've never had any such issue with my 2012 "junior special" P90....
     
  3. schmee

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    That's what's "special" about them...
     
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    I've never played one, so I don't know specifically about that. But generally, if I played an instrument that did that I'd probably hang a weight on the butt end...

    Because I can't sing sitting down.
     
  5. radiocaster

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    I don't think it would apply to double cutaway models.

    Or people who strap their guitar very high.

    I forgot to specify, the neck doesn't drop to the ground, it just drops from the normal playing position.
     
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    IMO ... You need to balance each guitar separately, as they are all unique ... If you try to use the same strap length (or style), you will have issues. ...
     
  7. radiocaster

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    I don't really see what your point is. Must have spent hours adjusting the strap the first time. And the last time it was adjusted to a position I find comfortable. Are you suggesting I should play the guitar in a position I find uncomfortable?
     
  8. El Marin

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    No, never had that problem.

    Well, never had a special, but a couple of Juniors can do the same fit
     
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    All I do is stand up when I play. I've got two homemade LP Jrs and two homemade LP Specials. One of my favorite body shapes - Les Paul without the additional weight of the maple cap.
     
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    A grippy strap worked for me.
     
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    EsquireOK Friend of Leo's

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    Nope. Slab LP bodies are among the most comfortable guitar bodies I've ever played. They are very easy to control IME.
     
  12. rangercaster

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    We all have different physiques ...Some guitars just hang or fit better than others ... C'est la vie ...
     
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    No such problem with mine.
     
  14. Asmith

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    Your problem is called neck dive or you might say a guitar is neck heavy, its mostly common on SGs. It wont happen on all juniors/specials/SGs but its likely to happen when the body is lightweight.

    My tele is a culprit and weighs about 6.5 lbs. I use a wide strap with a suede underside which grips my shirt which keeps it in the position it should be.
     
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    Put a tailweight on your strap.
     
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    Mine is a Paulownia body and a Rosewood neck and I deal with neck dive the same way violin players do!




    .......I hold the body between my cheek and shoulder....:(
     
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    Get a good flexible leather strap with a grippy suede back. I had terrible hassles when playing a neck heavy bass with a nylon strap. Changed to a grippy strap (I got an El Dorado Durango). Problem solved.
     
  18. radiocaster

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    I'll look for one of those glossy Epis, I read they're a bit heavier. Could be a pain to find a used one to try since they're no longer made.
     
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