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Any of you switch between and short scale and 34" regularly? Thoughts?

Discussion in 'The BASS Place' started by FortyEight, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. FortyEight

    FortyEight Tele-Holic

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    I have been playing a PBass for a while. It dawned on me that I should probably get a back up bass for what I'm doing. We are blessed to be playing gigs this year and getting paid and I feel like a back up bass is probably a good idea in case....

    So I'm sort of wanting to go down the road of short scale. My hands aren't overly big and I could probably benefit, especially with doing scales.

    That being said I love my Pbass.

    I've also been recording my own original music this year and a different sound couldn't hurt.

    At the same time I might just be best served with another 34". They do have a different feel and it could throw me if I hand to change up in the middle of a gig. LOL.

    I'm curious if any of you like the variety or like continuity in scale. My music go round has a Squier Jazz that felt very similar to my pbass and is 200. Could be the right one.
     
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    Is that not like going from a guitar to a bass? I know you play them differently but changing scale length is done fairly easily between guitar and bass I feel
     
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  3. fidopunk

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    Agree. I regularly switch between 24", 24 3/4", 25.5", 30", 34", and 35" scale. Look at your hands for a couple minutes and it's like riding a bike.
     
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    I'm primarily a guitarist, but I love to play bass (in a band) on occasions. I, too, have long played a P-Bass, but I wanted something different for when it's called for. I got a Hofner Ignition Club Bass.....basically a "Beatle-bass" but not as wimpy looking. I could take it as a back-up, but it's mainly as a totally different feel and sound. In MANY years of gigging and taking a backup guitar (for accidents) I don't remember ever needing it. (knock wood) I even use flats on bass, so I don't have to worry....they NEVER break. (;))
    Get a short scale bass (a Hofner, Gibson EBO, etc) for the fun of it.....they're really a blast to play. ;)
     
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  5. cowbellster

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    I switch between the upright and the p-bass. They are totally different, I tell ya. I carry a Hofner Shorty bass as a backup. It's short scale and very small. Never needed it though.

    Go for the short scale! It'll be fun! The Squier Jazz wont dissapoint either. They are very nice these days. Not as durable as Fenders but fine backup basses.
     
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    Chiogtr4x Doctor of Teleocity

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    My bluegrass bass buddy ( now playing only electrics, no more uprights) has hurting hands ( not sure if it's arthritis ) but he will not play anything LONGER than 30" !
    ( I think, I'm not a bass player)

    His current faves ( he really buys cool vintage, not the Eastwood clones), are a National, and a Mosrite- I think 25" Scale?
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  7. burntfrijoles

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    I love the comfort of a short scale bass but the problem I have is that the decreased tension, particularly on lower strings (Low E and A), makes the bass flabby in feel and sound.
    I switched to a P Bass and that’s what I like. If I needed a back up I’d just choose the opposite fretboard material. My Players bass has a maple board so I’d go with a rosewood board.
     
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  8. johnnylaw

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    Got the P bass. Feel like my bases are covered. See what i did there?
    Anyway, it’s as bullet proof as a Tele, and I’m not man enough to break one of those strings.
     
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    I do. I have a Player Series SS Mustang and a parts P-Bass. The tone is better on my P-Bass but the Mustang is easier to navigate, so I usually use the P-Bass to lay down tracks and the Mustang for everything else.

    I've never had any issues switching between the two.
     
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  10. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Tele-Afflicted

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    I routinely switch between 34 scale P or MM Sabre or J or others and a 30.7” Duesenberg. No issues at all. Never notice the difference. I have pretty long reach so the shorty I s just fun. If you were to capo about 2 frets up it’s the same as a shorty.
    Here’s how great muscle memory is. I switch between that short and a 34 unlined fretless a lot. And when I’m not playing bass I play a Tele or Strat or a 27” bari. I switch for different tones. The change is pretty much unnoticed.
     
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  11. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Tele-Afflicted

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    Is this the guitar porn section?

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  12. Bassman8

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    I've been switching from a Mustang PJ to a P Bass and back lately and by the time I tune up, I am good with either scale. If you can find a shorter scale bass that can punch out notes evenly on all it's strings, they can be really fun to play.
     
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    I've got an Ibanez TMB-30 SS and a 34" Carvin fretless. I had not played fretless prior to buying this a year or two back and was a little skeptical I'd be able to make it work, but apparently it's not such a big deal. Ah, so bottom line, both of these work for me and I don't have much trouble switching between them. Now if the SS bass had been fretless that might have been a different story, because I'd only played 34" fretted basses for about 35 years.
     
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    I have played 35" Warwick basses for about 17 years. My hands just know where to go on them. Last month I took a fanned-fret, 34"-37" scale bass out for a test drive week and gig. A 2"-4" change in scale length is pretty serious. Anyone who has played a 25.5" Fender-style guitar, then traded immediately to a goofy little Rickenbacker 325 with a 20.75" scale can attest to that. It feels wildly different, but within 30 minutes of messing around on it, it felt truly fantastic! I still missed a fret or two over the course of an hour of playing, but I'm sure you'd get used to both if you played both semi-frequently.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CK9qehqMH6y/
    ^ That's the bass I took out for a spin. Amazing!!
     
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  15. FortyEight

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    @burntfrijoles I've heard there are strings just a bit smaller that will work to increase tension to more like a 34" scale. Maybe some of the other dudes could chime in about that.....

    Do you guys use the smaller strings?

    @johnnylaw LOL. I'm not worried about breaking a string. It's more about the electrics. That there may be an issue someday... It probably won't ever happen but my volume pot is a little wonky sometimes. It goes from 0 to full out by 3 on the knob. And then every once in a while it reverts back to a more normal way of acting. LOL. I don't really feel like changing it. I like the tone and since I'm constantly playing it live, not having a back up makes it hard to let it go somewhere and be without.

    @Killing Floor Thank you for the pics. That first one is gorgeous. Well they both are. LOL.

    Yeah, I'm also starting to lean towards wanting to try a different scale for guitar too. For added feelz and tone. I have long been a 25.5" fender player exclusively but I think it might be time to try something different. I started out playing epi les pauls but settled on Fenders. But I do usually lust after 335s when fondling them at the store.

    I played an SG the other day that felt really good too. To me they seem it or miss, when it comes to the lower quality ones. And the miss ones usually feel pretty lousy to me. This one was actually a "Vintage" brand and it played nice.


    Anyways.... I appreciate the feedback. I may just have to look for a short scale bass now. Muuuwaaahhhaaaahhaaaahhaaaaa.

    We've been on a roller coaster of budget constraints lately. We're redoing our kitchen somewhat cuz the frigerator sprung a leak and I had to pull some of the floor all the way down to the joists. Well my brother in law did the lion share of the work. I helped. Then our tax returns weren't as good this year cuz our last kid turned 17. Now we are refinancing cuz the interest rates are so low and that will give us two months off of paying the mortgage. Then on the credit report we noticed we only have 2 more payments on the car and we double checked on the Ford website. Sure enough. We thought it was next year we were done with it. LOL.

    Gotta go order a countertop today...... Can I adda short scale bass to that order menards? LOL.
     
  16. FortyEight

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    @Chiogtr4x Wow, those are interesting if they are that short. Very cool. Thanks for the pics. I didn't know they made basses in 25". It would fit into my gig bag for my guitar and I wouldn't need another case. LOL. I don't think I want to go that small though.
     
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    I didn't know about any of this stuff till meeting Bob, the bass player 3 years ago, to play some bluegrass/ folk/acoustic blues.( I play with other really good bass guys, but they play 34" scale)
    Anyway Bob is really an eccentric gearhead
    ( note: and solid bass player for this music- I'm always following his changes as he knows a lot more bluegrass than me. I'm a good picker once I learn, but I lean on Bob)
    Bob has always played original '60's basses ( not RI's or Eastwood clones, he must have a little $$)
    And in the last few years he has swapped his Danelectros/ Silvertones, Thunderbird for really short scale guys.

    Here is Bob playing a most cool Vox, that he sold to get the Mosrite. I want to kill him for selling this!

    Good guy, note Burger King crown!
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  18. FortyEight

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    LOL. Love the burger king crown!!!! Nice pic. His suspenders match his bass pretty well. Nice. He's got Alabama colors on so my wife would appreciate that. :) She's from Alabama and a Crimson Tide fan.
     
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    I am Building a Short Scale Tele/P Bass and I really mean Short! Did a Snake Head on Neck, so able to put 2 Tuners per Side. 41.5" long it will be, which I will like. 2 piece Bookmatched Ash Top on a Chambered Ash Back. Transparent Cherry Red Lacquer. Satin Clear Coats in a few days. DSCN1668.JPG DSCN1669.JPG DSCN1670.JPG No Bridge Holes or Control Holes yet. Need to measure where to mount Bridge for 30" Scale. It can be changed to 34", with a Swap of Neck and have Bridge go down.
     
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  20. ZenGuitarist

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    I switch back and forth without any problems. My favourite bass is my JMJ Mustang bass but I also play other SS or full scale basses depending on my mood. I've attached a couple of pics of some of my SS basses - my JMJ and a Hofner, and my SS SBMM Stingray.

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