Any Netflix "Ozark" fans out there.

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I found the last season hard to get through and thought the ending was pretty poor.

I loved entire Series, but ( you could tell this was going to happen), things just got darker, and darker, murder after murder. Murder was the universal problem solver, and this bummed me out...
Until there was no hope of value/redemption.

The Byrds- they survived, but all they had was each other, to the exclusion of anyone else- so sad.

At least that's my take!

( Ruthie, love of my life- that character/acting blew me away)
 

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People who should know kept telling us how good it was. It may have been a good story, maybe even riveting, but I couldn't get past the dialogue. Does every line have to be clever? Is every comeback a sharp retort? Are these writers high-fiving each other after every line?

I like wit and I also like cookies, but I don't need a dozen chocolate chips in every bite.
 

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Her accent, although not exaggerated, might be common in rural Arkansas/Missouri, but I've liked in rural north Georgia all my life, and her accent would be a bit out of place around here. Here's a Youtube clip of a father/son, and a customer of a tire shop very near where I live. They had a chunk of ice fall from an airplane and go through the roof of their tire shop. That's what they're discussing. Their accent is the predominant rural Appalachian accent in this area.



LOL, it's always worst in the kids isn't it?
 

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People who should know kept telling us how good it was. It may have been a good story, maybe even riveting, but I couldn't get past the dialogue. Does every line have to be clever? Is every comeback a sharp retort? Are these writers high-fiving each other after every line?

I like wit and I also like cookies, but I don't need a dozen chocolate chips in every bite.
So I guess you're not a Deadpool fan?

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The ending was i thought appropriate. It has to end somehow. I cant think of a better one because somehow a different one would have seemed implausible.
I hope 'better call Saul' has a proper ending even though we know that Jimmy survives and we all guess his partner wont. After 'breaking bad' 'better call Saul' is still the runner up in my list. But i really liked 'ozark'..
Like the OP i intend to quit Netflix but only after 'Better call Saul' does in july.
My wife and i liked 'the crown' but it feels like diminishing returns. I dont think we will wait until the next season returns in november..
 

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When you see a show like Ozark it’s good to go back and do a little brush up work with a couple episodes of the Sopranos. Still the gold standard for antiheroes and awful people you occasionally feel an affinity for.

On Ozark? Only Ruth. And only very occasionally.

Of the half a dozen episodes I watched after the first two seasons, the ending was by far my favorite.
I actually borrowed a Sopranos dvd because i didnt watch it at the time and i was curious.
I thought it was tedious. All that goodfellows stuff got tiresome pretty quick. I lost interest both in the characters and the storyline. To me it showed how a groundbreaking series can go from hip to old hat pretty quick. At least it was for me.
The really great thing about Ozark was the nerve wrecking situations in which the characters are trying to manage highly volutile situations and realize their efforts just lead to other ones.
The Sopranos looks like a slow moving car wreck. 'Breaking bad' just changed everything for the better.
The Sopranos? Did not age well..
 

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Been watching it on a friend's box when visiting them. Am up to the point where the guy has the OD in the Casino, that episode.
 

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So I guess you're not a Deadpool fan?

:lol:
I wouldn't know. I watch movies in the winter and have baseball on in the summer. Don't mind a good series when I find time (Sinner, enjoyed some of Yellowstone, Black Mirror), but have tried a few others and couldn't jump in. Suppose I shouldn't bother with Deadpool then?
 

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I actually borrowed a Sopranos dvd because i didnt watch it at the time and i was curious.
I thought it was tedious. All that goodfellows stuff got tiresome pretty quick. I lost interest both in the characters and the storyline. To me it showed how a groundbreaking series can go from hip to old hat pretty quick. At least it was for me.
The really great thing about Ozark was the nerve wrecking situations in which the characters are trying to manage highly volutile situations and realize their efforts just lead to other ones.
The Sopranos looks like a slow moving car wreck. 'Breaking bad' just changed everything for the better.
The Sopranos? Did not age well..
This is good to see because I was thinking of starting "The Sopranos" since I've never seen one episode. I generally like the "goodfellows" type stuff.
 

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As for Netflix, now that Ozark is done, I am done with Netflix. Not enough good new content for my tastes and not enough good "legacy" material.

I too am just about done with Netflix.

They've canceled so many shows as I was just getting into them.

My wife and I love Stranger Things. But the latest season is 3 years after the last (in real life and storyline) and I just find it kind of annoying. They were really onto something and the characters were at the right point in their lives to make the story more enjoyable and now it's just not the same.
 

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I thought it was a great show. The ending was OK....it's always hard to figure out how to wrap up. The dream sequences gave a chance for past characters to make a cameo, which was a nice touch for wrapping up a show. I did wish Ruth could have made it out the other side.

Getting into a show requires suspension of disbelief. An unbelievable story has to be believable. I was able to roll with a lot of unbelievable scenarios, but the last season had things in it that stretched credulity past the breaking point, shattering the spell for me a bit. Here are a few things that broke it for me:

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1) After Javi shoots Darlene and Wyatt, the cops show up. In real life they would have searched every building on the property from top to bottom. No way multiple bricks of heroin sitting out in full view would have not been discovered and seized.

2) The Honda Odyssey flipping over multiple times would have resulted in major injuries. No way everyone is coming out, dusting themselves off, and heading off to a gala. In addition, lots of cars would have stopped and Good Samaritans would have tried to offer assistance. No way they would have had time to all get out and hug each other without anyone else showing up on the scene.

3) There was a bit of a continuity glitch for me. It seemed that the head of the cartel, in jail, had reconciled with his sister, and that they compared notes and realized they were being played against each other by the Byrds. But then in the next episode the sister is ready to take over the cartel and kill her brother, even though she had just learned that in fact her son was not killed by her brother after all. Why she switched so suddenly and was willing to kill her brother and grab for power was not made clear at all.

4) Ruth was a savvy person. Did she have a death wish at the end? Why did she walk up to the Escalade parked in her yard, unarmed? Typical Ruth would have flipped a U-turn and skedaddled. Was she sacrificing herself to avoid Rachel getting caught in the cross fire in the future? Her behavior was uncharacteristic for her character.

5) How do the Byrds walk away? Doesn't money still need to be laundered?

6) Why did the cartel leader insist that money HAD to be laundered through the casino, thereby generating the final crisis? Marty had dozens of layered dummy corporations that he was using to launder millions. At that point the casino was only one component of a much larger laundering operation.

7) Why did a pharmaceutical company actually need heroin as a raw material? They can manufacture just about any organic chemical from scratch. I suppose in theory working with a close congener reduces production costs, but drugs are so expensive for the consumers that manufacturing costs are a relatively minor issue in terms of overall profitability.
 

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I thought it was a great show. The ending was OK....it's always hard to figure out how to wrap up. The dream sequences gave a chance for past characters to make a cameo, which was a nice touch for wrapping up a show. I did wish Ruth could have made it out the other side.

Getting into a show requires suspension of disbelief. An unbelievable story has to be believable. I was able to roll with a lot of unbelievable scenarios, but the last season had things in it that stretched credulity past the breaking point, shattering the spell for me a bit. Here are a few things that broke it for me:

SPOILER ALERT!!
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1) After Javi shoots Darlene and Wyatt, the cops show up. In real life they would have searched every building on the property from top to bottom. No way multiple bricks of heroin sitting out in full view would have not been discovered and seized.

2) The Honda Odyssey flipping over multiple times would have resulted in major injuries. No way everyone is coming out, dusting themselves off, and heading off to a gala. In addition, lots of cars would have stopped and Good Samaritans would have tried to offer assistance. No way they would have had time to all get out and hug each other without anyone else showing up on the scene.

3) There was a bit of a continuity glitch for me. It seemed that the head of the cartel, in jail, had reconciled with his sister, and that they compared notes and realized they were being played against each other by the Byrds. But then in the next episode the sister is ready to take over the cartel and kill her brother, even though she had just learned that in fact her son was not killed by her brother after all. Why she switched so suddenly and was willing to kill her brother and grab for power was not made clear at all.

4) Ruth was a savvy person. Did she have a death wish at the end? Why did she walk up to the Escalade parked in her yard, unarmed? Typical Ruth would have flipped a U-turn and skedaddled. Was she sacrificing herself to avoid Rachel getting caught in the cross fire in the future? Her behavior was uncharacteristic for her character.

5) How do the Byrds walk away? Doesn't money still need to be laundered?

6) Why did the cartel leader insist that money HAD to be laundered through the casino, thereby generating the final crisis? Marty had dozens of layered dummy corporations that he was using to launder millions. At that point the casino was only one component of a much larger laundering operation.

7) Why did a pharmaceutical company actually need heroin as a raw material? They can manufacture just about any organic chemical from scratch. I suppose in theory working with a close congener reduces production costs, but drugs are so expensive for the consumers that manufacturing costs are a relatively minor issue in terms of overall profitability.

Point #2 is spot on. Nobody would have just walked away from that. And yeah on the witnesses. Regarding your #3 - we thought maybe we missed an episode. So it wasn't just us. Totally agree on all your other points. In fact we mentioned most of them to each other during the show. For #4 - we figured she did indeed have a death wish since her entire family was wiped out. Money meant nothing to her - she had tons of it.
 

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I loved her! To me she deserved the redemption she achieved. Julia Garner won 2 Emmy and 1 Golden Globe awards for her portrayal.

Linney was masterful but her character was loathsome. She was cold, heartless, ruthless, without remorse, bordering on sociopathic.
Bordering on? 😳
 

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People who should know kept telling us how good it was. It may have been a good story, maybe even riveting, but I couldn't get past the dialogue. Does every line have to be clever? Is every comeback a sharp retort? Are these writers high-fiving each other after every line?

I like wit and I also like cookies, but I don't need a dozen chocolate chips in every bite.
Stay away from the goat cookie jar…
 




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