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Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Newbcaster, Mar 26, 2019.
Anyone have one? What's it like?
Like, an AB box?
Not anything fancy, I bought mine in 2007 and it's as simple as possible, one input, one button, 2 outputs. No battery, no light.
Recently contemplated buying an EHX one to match my other pedals, because I saw one on CL for $20.
If you meant anything more elaborate than an AB-Y box, got no use for one, so I don't know. I've never felt I needed more than 2 amps in a setting where I couldn't just unplug from one and go to another.
Radial Tonebone Isolates each amp well and takes of care of ground loop or phase issues. Great piece of equipment
I just use a real basic whirlwind switcher.
The only issue if you are running one hot, maxed, it
will not eliminate the background howl.
Nowadays, I just use for comparison testing.
Skip around, but Phil X talks about his two amp setup and his ABY box in this video, I think around 18-20 minutes area.
If you want to build an ABY box, here are a couple of walk throughs
I had a radial tone bone for a short time (took it in as part trade on something) It did work well. Good product. to use two amps into one speaker box.
If you mean just switching between two combos an ABY switcher works fine if you dont get ground loop hum...
Well, the OP hasn't checked back in, but assuming he was talking about an ABY box, it is simple, effective, and can be inexpensive. I've used mine in various applications at home or at gigs, with good success. Mine is a LiveWire Solutions brand, and it costs $50 at GC, MF, etc. I can't seem to find a picture of mine, so I'll just be lazy and borrow one from the Internet. There are more expensive ones that are designed to fight ground loop, but for my applications, that's never been a problem, it works great.
As the bottom side of it shows, you can run two lines out from it to two amps, or two guitars to one amp. I've used it both ways.
You pay for what you get -- this is built like a tank, works flawlessly and effectively deals with phase-matching:
I have two of these. I wouldn't run a stereo rig without them
Unless, of course, you're a thief.
The Radial boxes are all good and super useful. You want an ABY box that can flip the phase in case the speakers are wired out of phase. I have owned a Tonebone Switchbone for over two decades. They have a sweet boost pedal. It also has a drag control which allows the pickups to get to their optimal load with the amps. That's a super useful feature unto itself. The new version even looks more useful, but the original is really great-one of the better clean boosts I have ever used plus it's a great ABY box:
Lehle Little Dual works as needed. No problems at all and only requires basic 9v power supply, no special higher voltage supplies.
If you mean like a Vodoo Labs Amp Switcher that does four amps, I've got one and can't say anything bad about it. Think it set me back around $200 well probably a little more.
It's the only ABY box type thing I've used so I can't compare it to anything else, but here's what I know.
It has ground lifts.
You can either play from 1 to 4 amps at once, switching them in and out.
Or you can hook up 4 amps (or less) and set it to play just one, turns one on, shut off the last one.
It switches silently and seamlessly.
Like a lot of pedals, the battery goes dead and you loose sound, works fine then you're unplugged.
I just use an AC adapter, because I often forget to unplug the one cable that flips the switch and next day, dead battery.
Works great but honestly after awhile I just went back to one amp most of the time.
Although that one amp at a time setting is handy for comparing 4 amps on the fly.
I've read that my lowly EHX Switchblade is an evil tone sucker, but I don't hear it.
Works fine for me.
So i posted a thread earlier which was completely ignored; I left this one more general and voila! people responded!!!
Anyways Im glad to see that.
I wanted to rig up all 12 amps in my studio so that all 4 of my "main sounds" which are all stereo will be available without having to tap dance or walk over and change cabling.
Turns out I have to tap dance.
I was looking at Tim Pierce's kahayan amp switcher 8x4.... but i called the distributor here in the us and it wouldnt work.
Basically what I want to do is:
sound 1: crate 50 with tone tubby speakers out to TC electronics g-major2, stereo out to 2 more crate 50 watts with tone tubbies.....loud as balls. Think Brian May, Billy Gibbons, George Thorogood, Dave Hole, but sweeter and louder
Sound 2: Ultra clean Country... Sonic Maximizer, Pigtronix Philosopher King, Demeter Stereo Tremulator, Demeter Rack Real reverb, out to 2 hartke Bass amps/bass cabs
Sound 3: Ry cooder, Mark Knopfler: same fx as ultra clean country plus auto wah, univibe, orange squeezer, KOT clone and Slide Rig compressor out to 1960s supro thunderbolt and fender super twin reverb
Sound 4: Arena rock and metal
Dimed Marshall Joe Satriani head with a cheap behringer vintage delay to fatten the sound
Front end pedals: Thorpy Gunshot, BK Butler tube overdrive 4knob, 10 ton hammer, Slide rig, Univibe, Dunlop Wah,
FX loop pedals go out to stereo left and right marshall tsl 100s.
Boss Delay, BossChorus, Boss re20 space echo. Demeter Rack reverb.
Easily the most metal and relentless sound i've ever heard. Big fat, loud and bonecrushing. Not like that Kirk Hammett bees farting in a jar sound.
So thats what Im up to in a nutshell.
I'm thinking you're going to have to get something custom built once you get over four amps at a time. I think Kendricks made one that'd do 6 amps, maybe they still do?
And maybe there is something that'd work out there already, I sure don't know.
BYOC just came out with a kit. A-B-Y with ground lift. Amp Selector V2
Good luck with that project, Newbcaster!
I go in the other direction. 3-4 instruments into 1 amp. Radial/Tonebone is my current answer for that.
You might find a way to do what you want with one or two of the Voodoo Labs signal routers. They also make a floor MIDI controller that works with the switching units. Pricey. MIDI control of multiple signal switchers is probably the best solution, you may have to custom build one.
On the other hand, you could possibly cascade several less expensive A/B switchers. More buttons to press, but could work. Say if you have three simple A/B switches. One main A/B select, the outputs go to two other switches. Thats four channels, and the most buttons you would have to hit is 2, to go from any output to any of the other three. Assuming they are transparent, 5 4-channel switchers could get you 16 output channels.
Hope this helps,
I've used 3 ABYs together to interface four amps at once.
(Ihave no idea why Ihave 3)
Kind of an ABY/AB-CD/YY/W
Cool but too much hassle. Cool for comparing amps as BobbyZ said above.