Americans Invented Rock and Roll, But The British Perfected It. Fight me!

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    I think the 'murican in this comes off a little worse in this clip...
     
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    Might as well go for a soda,
    nobody hurts and nobody cries
    might as well go for a soda,
    its better than slander
    and nobody dies!

     
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    This guy perfected it with this song:
     
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    You would be wrong.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Bull, we love the UK. Someone ever messes with you, they have to get through us first.
     
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    Yeah most of us are just riffing not really fighting.
    I love the Brit music influence, Brit amps, Brit accents, Brit comedy and action comedy along with Brit actors.
    Lotta great Brit stuff and British Punk is also bloody great.

    Can I say that here without buggering up the vibe?
     
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    Too bad he stopped playing it in 1958.
     
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    I thought these guys perfected rock and roll
     
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    We’re all just a bunch of horrible, invadin’, thievin’, musical criminals!
     
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    There is definitely a lot of great rock that came out of Britain. I mean it’s well known that Jimi had to go to go over there and get an English rhythm section to finally break the big time.
     
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    Nope. Can be explained in two words. Robert + Johnson = Robert Johnson. This thread is closed.
     
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    Example:

    My kid is 12 years old. She listens to whatever she can dance and sing along to with her friends. Mostly sad boy emo bands and Korean pop music. But she knows who the Beatles are and she knows who Mick Jagger is.

    My wife's musical tastes lean towards jazz and R&B. But she knows the words to almost every Led Zeppelin song.

    Neither one of them knows who Gene Vincent or Eddie Cochran is.

    I'm not saying that's good or correct, it's just a fact.

    Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran aren't universally recognized icons of popular culture.

    The bands you hear on your radio every day are.

    And out of those bands, the biggest, most iconic, and most widely listened to happen to be British.
     
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    I think you're on the right track with this.

    I pose a new question. What would rock music have become if the UK "scene" / Lonnie Donegan never existed?

    The reality is that the US pop scene was probably more dilute. Surf music was popular, country, Motown, folk. It seems to me the musical landscape of the 70's would have been vastly different if the British Invasion hadn't occurred. Maybe we would have ended up with something more similar to Punk years earlier, as folk tunes turned into angry protest songs due to the war in Vietnam.

    After the 1st wave of the British Invasion (Beatles, Kinks, early Stones), maybe the U.S. was caught off guard by the extra-heavy blues influenced tunes of the guitar-god bands like Cream, Deep Purple, The mature Stones ;) and had to adapt, resulting in a delay in U.S. based "all-time great acts" by a number of years.

    Imagine if the bubbling K-pop (Korean Pop) wave exploded into a "Korean Invasion" next week. It would take a couple of years for the labels in the U.S. to slap together some 7-10 performer idol groups and train them how to dance and lip-sync to match the existing eastern talent.


    Timing is everything and I think the British got to Pop (or modern) Rock first.
     
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    I'm British but the only bands I like from the 60's are all American:-
    Jimi Hendrix Experience (hold on, just shot myself in the foot - 2/3's British!) start again
    The Doors
    The Stooges
    MC5
    Velvet Underground
    Creedence Clearwater Revival.
     
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    For the music, there's at least an argument, though mostly if you define "rock" narrowly. (My preferences are largely for the British bands, so I'm not objective.) For the gear, though, you're way off -- absurdly so, really. Enjoy playing your Bison through your Dominator.
     
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    John Cale's Welsh ;)
     
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    The British are definitely well represented in the world of rock. That isn’t even arguable, but perfected it? I just can’t buy that. I can’t think of a single British rock band I’d rather hear over the likes of Tom Petty, The Allman Brothers, or The Toadies. JMHO
     
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