AMC Pacer vs Chevy Vega.

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  1. Zepfan

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    AMC Gremlins got a V8 swap a lot as well.

    I thought about swapping the straight six in my pacer for a V8, but hated the way the car looked. Was going to trade it in on a 1981 Pontiac Trans Am(Black & Gold), but parents wouldn't co-sign. Sold it to a used car lot and got a 1975 2 door Chevy Nova. Loved that car. Straight six -automatic went bye bye - put in 350 and Muncie 4 speed.
     
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    Novas are nice cars.




    A lot of factors come into play determining which old cars are desirable.


    The vega has more going for it than just rarity. Aesthetics are huge. The vega has IT much more than any of its competitors.




























    I Think this answers the original question.
     
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    Just asking Pete why he makes me scroll...
     
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    My sister bought a brand new Vega that started rusting on the way home. The paint was latex on iron. A POS.
     
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    It took me two times of reading your post to get it.
    Thanks for asking
    It's because
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    I don't know why
    Reaalllly I don't care for bunched up text
     
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    OK, so you don't like bunched up text. A simple double space will separate sentences pretty adequately.

    I would ask, as consideration for others that you edit out all the space in your post? Thanks!
     
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  7. peteb

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    Cuz c like on paper
    I jam everything togethor, I consider myself the master of the one pager



    But on digital




    I prefer to spread things out

    So that each statement stands out


    I write my emails in similar fashion.
     
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    As far as the Vegas go in addition to the small radiator and the sleeveless aluminum block they were also transported by rail on their noses which I have read allowed battery acid to leak out onto the inner fender and get the rust party started. See image below. As to the V8 Pintos, they were around but when I was a kid there were always way more Chevy guys around which in turn meant more V8 Vegas builds than V8 Pintos. In the northeast Joel Rosen also had ads in all the hot rod magazines for the Motion Super Vegas which really fueled a lot of young guys imaginations.

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    And a V8 Pinto for the Ford guys.

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    My mother bought a Vega new. It instantly began to fail. One of the least reliable, most obviously bad vehicles ever IMO. Meanwhile, my sister bought a used Pacer. It seemed to be more reliable, but was triumphantly butt ugly, looked like an upside down bird bath. Kinda went with some of the other goofy fashion touches of the era.
    MD
     
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    That's why Delco invented the sealed battery with side-mounted terminals, which came in every Vega from day 1.
     
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    This is a worthwhile read

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    Before I got my Vega, I had a roommate with a Pontiac Astre (a Vega badged with Pontiac branding). It was stock but seemed reasonably dependable. I was 18/19 years old and drove the snot out of that car. It kept up with me just fine so they couldn’t be all that bad in stock form. It had way more get up and go than the Chevy Chevette.

    If I get the opportunity, I’ll build another V8 Vega. I’d put a 327 crate motor in it with one of the newer automatics, a proper front end suspension and a proper rear end. I’ve got a bunch of guitars, amps and effect pedals to get through first.
     
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    I can't believe they stacked them in that train car like that.



    It makes me wonder how all the new cars are distributed throughout Washington state which manufactures no cars.


    Besides the many Asian cars parked by the port, all I ever see is a lone truck on the road carrying a mix of vehicles. These always look like small time operations, not the distribution system of ford or Chevy. I guess they could be inside box cars. I never looked at a train and thought, there is a train load of new cars. I picture open air train cars, like the open air big trucks that carry two levels of cars.



    Macaronie,


    That looks interesting. Can I ask what 'the machine' is?

    Thanks
     
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    Awasson,


    That's cool you are able to do that.



    And I would expect that you will get a nice result, as you have all ready been thru that once.
     
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    Good grief! What a moronic way to transport those Vegas! What did GM do right in those fateful days??
     
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    I'll take your word for it, but my Vega's battery leaked like a drunken CEO....
     
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    @Mike Eskimo There was a guy in my class on our wrestling team whose parents bought him a brand new diesel Chevette 4 speed. AM radio, nothing else. Slow doesn't even come close to describing it.

    Used to call it a **** vette.

    Chevy was buying the diesel engines from Volkswagen. I drove a contemporary diesel Rabbit, which was a MUCH BETTER CAR. 40+ MPG in the late 80's, well before fuel economy was so important that hybrids are such big sellers.

    $17,000 Pacer. Only $254 a month. :rolleyes:
     
  18. awasson

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    A little off topic but this just came to mind...

    I read an article back in the early 2000’s that graphed out fuel economy of Chevy mid size trucks from 1982 to about 2002 or so. I don’t recall the exact dates of the study but they hit a fuel economy milestone in 1985 on the Chevy Blazer V6 and then fuel economy got worse up until the 2000’s. I recall the date of the 1985 blazer because a buddy of mine bought one of those brand new. I don’t know what if anything has happened to fuel economy on gas powered cars since then.

    My daily driver is a gas powered car but I’ve driven some hybrids and a used Tesla Model S. I could definitely get by with one of those.
     
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    Was it the original battery in a car you bought new?
     
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    Without looking it up, I'm gonna guess that in '85 they had the "throttle body fuel injection" system, and after '85 the trucks started putting on weight?
     
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