Always out of tune?!!

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  1. Chedbaze

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    So. My MIJ BLUE FLOWER TELE won't stay in tune. It's mostly the E A D and G strings. B and A are fine. Crazy thing is that it detunes higher not lower. Is it the vintage style tuners?, the nut seems fine with plenty of space for each string. Any advice?
     
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    The strings are hanging up somewhere..
     
  4. MilwMark

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    Do you mean open strings are in tune, but fretted notes up the neck are not? Then you need to intonate the guitar?

    Fenders are pretty simple. Tuning issues are rarely caused by tuners themselves.

    Normally, it is the nut, but it can be other things.
     
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    Un-stretched strings? Strings not installed properly? Non-lubricated nut? All relevant screws (neck plate, tuners, bridge plate) need tightening?
     
  6. blille

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    The nut.
     
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    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    Nut.
     
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    I have a similar problem with a MIM Strat when we go from having heat on in the Winter time to AC in the Spring.
    Tommie
     
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    Warm up the strings by doing some strumming and playing before you tune.
     
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    All of my guitars are always get a little higher when they have been sitting around cold for a day or two. Since that's about a hundred guitars and 25 years, and includes guitars with locking tuners, roller nuts, tremsetters, etc., I figure it's normal.

    Yep, that's what I generally do.
     
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    What guage strings are you using ? As others have suggested, it may be the nut...lube it up.
     
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    I'm gonna go with this. Thanks! I'll also run a little pencil in the nut for good measure, but a hundred guitars?! I'd be a fool not to go with you on this.
     
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    If B and A are always fine and not the others, my money is in the nut. It may be more than pencil, you may need to file make sure they fit well.

    Weather affects tuning, no doubt. But not like the weather affects just 2 out of 3 of the high and low strings. Just saying.
     
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    Wait, do you mean it pitches up when you leave it for a day or two (or longer)? That part is normal. String tension and all that.
     
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    Check what everyone else has said but also check intonation. If ever I have tuning issues I go there first, it's a common culprit.
     
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    I would be more surprised if it has been less than 100 guitars than if it has been more. I started this thread about a list of my guitars that I found, where I started writing down an inventory, back around 2000, but this is just what I had in the house that day, if it's even all of them. They changed on a weekly and sometimes daily basis.

    http://www.tdpri.com/threads/the-good-old-days-when-i-had-lots-of-guitars.646503/

    In those days, having 30 guitars in the house at a time was no big deal and I probably spent more free time buying, selling and trading than playing.
     
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    I have never had a nut issue nor a tuner issue. I have cheap tuners, expensive tuners, open tuners, synthetic nuts, bone nuts, acoustic and electric guitars. Live in a house using wood heat, so daily temperatures can vary 15 degrees. I have turned on so many guitars players to strumming a few minutes to warm up the strings before tuning and that solves their tuning issues. Not to say, if you change string gauges, don't stretch new strings, wind the strings incorrectly on the tuner shafts or intonation is incorrect can affect tuning, but by in large, warming up the strings seems to be the problem most of the time.
     
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    Way too much neck relief could do that.
     
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    Don't you mean too little relief? It sounds like the truss rod's tension is overwhelming the strings, stretching them sharp?
     
  20. RoyBGood

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    No, if there's too much relief, as you go up the neck, there's an increased gap between the strings and frets, so by the time you've made contact, you've done a small 'vertical string bend'.
     
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