All original '69 Tele with pearloid ply on guard

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  1. Bob Mc

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    Doing what looks like the first setup on a case (basement) queen 69ish Tele. Original owner got this as a gift from his folks. I am just doing a basic setup for action, cleaning electronics, intonation restring; it will need fret work by a pro. Last night I broke her down and was surprised by the back of guard; has anyone else seen this before? What pearolid was on the production floor at that time; Thinline?
    More detail: both pots (dated '66) are 1Meg. The neck pup measures 6.7K and the bridge 5.9K (sic).
     
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    Links for photos seem to be to a private album. Can't see them.
     
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    Changed settings to public; worky now?
     
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    Works fine for me.....and it's odd.
     
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    Yeah, sure is! And the guard is shrunken worse then any other I have seen (admittedly, I have not worked on hundreds, let's put it out dozens).
     
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    Maybe they bought that three-ply to save money/stock space, knowing it could be cut to be flipped either way--white or pearl.

    Maybe they needed a guard and that was all they had that day. But yeah, wouldn't a 69 thinline have had pearl?
     
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    Gotta love the mindset at the factory in those days; pots from 1966, neck from 1969, SN could be from either 69 or 70; why not re-purpose a T-line guard!
     
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    Are the bevels on the PG correct? Hard to tell from the distant pics.

    I almost wondered if it's a later lefty PG put on? The bevels appear to be angles for the "righty".
     
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    It is beveled correctly for right hand use; so pearloid is on the bottom.
     
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    Thanks for making the photos public. That is pretty mysterious!
     
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    Having a guard with perloid bottom ply was normal at that time.
    I don't remember though if all guards were done this way. It could be the case.
     
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    I have seen many pictures and people mentioning this period telecaster with the flipped pearl PG
    as Tom Jones would say iT's nOt UNusuaL
     
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    That's right, during this period, many guitars have back perloid pickguard, but not all, it's random and 69 is the main year for this. I guess they must have had an issue with white layers stock and had used perloid instead just for the bottom white ply.
     
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    I've seen this on many teles, Tele basses, and jazz basses, and mustangs from the period. CBS Fender didn't want to carry two seperate items for pickguard material. So when they came out with the tele thin line they order their pickguard material with white on one side and pearloid on another.
    You can see this on Fender products all the way up to 1970 to 1972 on some models. The thinlines and deluxes didn't go over as well as they hoped for so they had a lot material to go through until the pearloid/white was exhausted.
     
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    Thanks all! I will be starting another thread when I swap the pots (that is if I get decent recordings before and after).
     
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    Apparently, this was a change in the late 60's to both tele's and strat's (possibly others) with '69 the most prominent year. I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing this was due to the increased CBS production schedule and consequently the purchasing of raw materials in suitable quantity to allow for this increased production. Same reason, so many '67's thru early 70's tele's have '66 pots installed from the factory. Someone at the factory just ordered way too much! So much for JIT production!

    FYI: One of these was for sale recently for several hundred dollars.
     
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    My ‘69 has the pearloid backing as well. They did on ‘68 and ‘69 teles apparently.
     
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    Wow.. u think they cut it upside down?

    It would make more sense to have the pearl at the top and white at the bottom.
     
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    Very commonly found on mid-60's strats too.
     
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