Yeah I get that, and overreacted due to something like PTSD from the general mix of stated recovery experiences and misinformed opinions, along with funerals. I feel it's important to at least try to counter some of the urban legends about 12 step programs. One myth being that 12 step programs = AA. First, AA varies widely, and few individuals can summarize all of AA in one paragraph. Second, the more experienced you are in a 12 step program, the less you speak publicly about AA. Third, AA did not work for me, so I tried other 12 step programs and found meetings that DID work for me. Fourth, anyone who claims to represent AA and claims or implies they have a monopoly on recovery, is among the very worst and most misinformed "members" of AA. (or any other 12 step program) Therein lies the catch 22 of 12 step programs. Because they are programs of attraction rather than promotion, virtually every attempt to promote them as being great, comes from the worst possible spokesperson. Then, the word of the worst member/ visitor, gets repeated and further promoted, which becomes an accepted myth that serves to make desperate addicts and alcoholics wary of these programs, due to the urban myths. Virtually every complaint/ issue that gets repeated into urban fact, can be avoided by simply choosing a different 12 step program or different meeting, and maybe a different sponsor if one makes it that far. So I do agree that, like Strats, spouses, foods, clothing; no 12 step program or 12 step meeting works for everyone. It is not however, a fact, that some addicts/ alcoholics/ gamblers/ over eaters etc, simply cannot get the results if they follow one of the suitable programs. Visiting a few meetings doesn't make anyone clean or sober, any more than visiting guitar shops makes you a guitar player. Comparing the work it takes to achieve something, I'd say quitting and staying quit in a 12 step program is less work than learning to play guitar well. But visiting the rooms where there are guitars or recovery, that won't work for anyone who doesn't do steady work at it. And like guitar playing, there are many approaches, but few do it perfectly. A sad thing we see in 12 step recovery is hundreds of patients in treatment who get brought to meetings and keep getting better, then excited to graduate, almost all go right back to using in a few days or months. I personally know so many who graduated one year treatment, relapsed, graduated another year treatment, relapsed, numerous times. Programs show those members in stats of successful treatment, if the patient graduates and moves back to independent living. That medical alternative is what it is, they take an expensive shot at treating the patient, but cannot cure them. Good realistic info is not easy to sift out of the businesses adverts and the 12 step programs quietly saying "We're here when you're ready". There are even treatment professionals who tell patients not to go to 12 step programs, because they make big money putting patients ON "stuff", while 12 step programs help patients get OFF "stuff" for free.