Airport weirdness

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  1. Toto'sDad

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    I know what you are talking about with Daisy making friends wherever you went. When we did take Toto to places that were acceptable to have a canine pal, he was so well liked that it was almost scripted. People would see him, and want to know all about him, could they pet him, etc. He was a star, no doubt about it, and brought with that, all that goes with it.
     
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    If for some unknown reason I were ever in that situation (which I wouldn't be) I would not hesitate, I'd grab up some bags, AND disinfectant, (probably have some in my pocket since I might be eating where they had one of those Mike Eskimo menus) and clean the mess up while apologizing to that woman standing over there gesticulating wildly and hollering; "You're in friggin' Home Depot for Pete's sake!"
     
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    A week or so ago I embarked on a 5000 plus mile loop in my car. Family and work. No airlines for me anymore and I'm a pilot. No more flying with strangers. They're too strange.
     
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    I think the ADA has been twisted into a very perverse pretzel at this point. I doubt any of its authors could have imagined how strange things have become.

    I've got a new neighbor in TN named Bill. He can't get around too well, but many are worse off. Anyway, they've "assigned" him an ADA parking spot he doesn't like and he feels he's imposing on the rest of us if he doesn't use it. It is right in the direct sun and his Cadillac gets crazy hot. I try to tell him the other renters here don't mind one bit if he uses one spot while a second is tied up specifically for him. I tell him "Hey, Bill, sometimes my girlfriend and I have 4 cars and we take 4 places. You're paying the same rent she is - why shouldn't you have 4. There's a slew of spaces here."

    But I promise, he feels obligated to use the marked spot. And I hadn't even got to mentioning how he simply hates being identified as needing someone's help. So many older men and women who could easily get a Handicap plate or Purple Heart plate or what have you but that's NOT THEIR STYLE. They feel like they got an even break in life - they don't need any favors. We stigmatize people and their self image is corrupted. Doesn't anyone understand this?

    One day in late August, Bill's daughter came over and took him to the doctor. He couldn't drive himself because the car was too hot. I figured this out, recently. Is this the way we intended this to go?
     
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    I still have many leftover bags, from when Daisy was with us. I saw a guy walking his dog, pretend to have no bag and it was gonna be his "excuse" not to pick it up. I hastened over to him and handed him two fresh poop bags. He didn't seem to appreciate that, but he did do what he needed to.
     
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    I don't know how old you are BB, but in the days when I used to fly commercial, it was a very uplifting experience. Booze was served on the plane, including mixed drinks, a nice meal was served, and the hostess didn't have a beard. The hostesses were professional at handling people, but generally there was no handling involved. Mostly they brought you pillows, and asked if there was anything they could do for you to make your trip more comfortable. It was quiet enough to sleep if you wished, and the seats were large enough and had space enough around them to allow you to do so. We as a civilization lost a lot when it was decided by the powers that be that the needs of the few should outweigh the comforts of the many.
     
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    I flew small planes just enough to be dangerous. As Clint Eastwood was wont to say, " a man's GOT to know his illimitations, I knew mine, and decided it was in my, and probably the best interest of the public, if I quit pursuing a pilot's license. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
     
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    Those who are pushy, rude, and obnoxious tend to command the most attention. That's why you don't see videos of people extending simple kindnesses to each other getting shared on the internet...because nice is boring.

    Rude and obnoxious is exciting.

    Rude and obnoxious gives us a chance to have whatever negative assumptions we've arrived at confirmed, fills us with a self righteous sense of superiority, and lets us make sweeping generalizations about entire groups of individuals.

    Rude and obnoxious means we get to grumble about how society is apparently going to hell because some people choose to immerse themselves in the latest technology, some people enjoy following celebrity gossip, or some teenage kids can't perform basic auto maintenance.

    Inconsiderate jerks, inept morons, and dumb teenagers have always existed...It's just that now everyone has a camera in their pocket to document it and a worldwide platform to share it on so it makes it seem like the world is being overrun by them.

    I'd argue that the majority of people we encounter in our day to day lives are friendly, considerate, and just want to get through their day with the barest minimum of hassle.

    As far as getting annoyed at people that don't act "normal" goes... "normal" is a self-imposed social and cultural construct.

    Are the individuals you've personally deemed to not be acting "normal" keeping you from achieving your goals? Are they putting the lives of yourself or others in danger? Or do they just make you angry and uncomfortable because they're not conforming to whatever standards you've personally decided are appropriate?

    Some people choose to keep emotional support animals, grocery shop in their pajamas, or bring their own pillow on an airplane...Why do you care?
     
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    Those types really shine in the grocery store. My local TJ's looks like a barnyard, despite having a section outside to park your animal.

    The whole ESA is a farce that should only be allowed up to a point. That point is pretty much a persons own dwelling. Look, I love animals, but if your "service animal" doesn't perform a necessary function it isnt eligible to potentially poop in the aisle. Cuddling you isnt a necessary function. It isnt.
     
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    Because the animals crap in the floor where you trying to do real business, those people in pajamas? No telling what's going on there. Bring their own pillow? To share their lice with the other people on board? Oh, I see you live in the same California I do where all of this is normal, maybe even expected. Never mind.
     
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    Well, in reality, that's what they do. For all the old man grumbling, kids today are pretty resilient and resourceful. And they have adapted to their world (it's theirs) faster than we have.

    Anytime they don't know how to do anything, they look it up and learn. And they are very good at quickly filtering the chaff videos out and focusing on the wheat.

    When you think about it, if your battery dies or your tire goes flat, which makes more sense. Flagging someone down to jump the car, and hoping they are legit? Standing/crouching on the side of the road hoping some maniac isn't eating lunch while texting at 60 about to plow you over? Or locking your doors and calling roadside assistance? Who will likely be there in 20 minutes, tracked by JPS and with a call log record to deter shenanigans, who is a pro and will do it for you - at no cost - as part of a SERVICE YOU HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR?

    The decline in resilience goes both ways, no? Possibly along with a decrease in empathy and increase in ready outrage and public demonstrations of both?

    @studio1087 - fortunately my complete laziness, err, efficiency? keeps me from clear transgressions like bringing my home pillow and bedding on a plane. I barely want to carry the **** I have to carry. Why in the world would I want to lug anything extraneous?
     
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    That's essentially what I've been telling my daughter recently. She's also informed that because of this state of affairs, that she shouldn't trust adults, or respect their authority simply because they are adult.

    Someone may be an adult, but it doesn't mean they are mature.
     
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    Yep. My wife was telling me just last night how a shocking number of employees of airline X mishandle situations to the point that it is having to be addressed in a very serious, large scale manner.

    Case in point (one among too many) for months anytime a person of a certain genetic extraction does anything, even just perceived, these employees call the police on them. It has been claims such as "They gave me attitude" or "She gave me a rude look". But it goes well beyond that.

    Welcome to the planet of the apes.
     
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    If spending your time being angry and cynical makes you happy, have at it. I'd personally rather have a chuckle at life's absurdities and move on with my day. It's a wide, ever changing world full of all types of people. If more of us embraced that instead of fighting it tooth and nail I think we'd be in a much better place.

    And to suggest that Los Angeles and Bakersfield are the same California is especially funny.:lol:
     
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    Airports aren't a very nice experience for crews and passengers these days because of the sometimes over-zealous security measures but I can put up with that. What I don't like are the holiday-making cretins than the UK seems to specialise in.
    They're easy to recognise: they'll typically be under 35, short-haired, dressed in shorts and T-shirts, wall-papered in tattoos and getting stuck into beer in the airport bar at 6 a.m. They'll progressively become louder, swear, start some idiotic chant and offend passers-by. Then, if they're not stopped by security or gate staff, they'll board their budget-fare aircraft and carry on with their anti-social behaviour, making travel a miserable experience for the normal passengers. They'll generally be heading off on a week's drunken debauchery in some Czechoslovakian or Greek or Spanish destination where the proprietors are geared up to make a fortune from the cheap beer and alco-shots advertised outside their gaudy bars. There'll be fights and broken windows and furniture but not enough to make much of a dent in the night's takings.
    They'll wake up the locals at 3 a.m on the way back to their hotel, vandalise something or other, fight, puke up on the pavement and fall asleep in the road. Repeat everything the following day... Then they'll start the same cycle at their return airport.
    One example of their sort:
     
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    One in sixty six people are on the autism spectrum. If they travel with the same frequency as those not on the spectrum, you’re probably getting on a plane with folks on the spectrum. And it isn’t a visible disability often, and many folks on the spectrum benefit from having a support animal. They also become dysregulated when their routines are altered. Bringing a pillow or whatever may be a way to cope.

    All these people doing so-called strange things are doing so as a way to cope with an environment that is threatening to them.

    And add to that people that have ptsd, or just plain old claustrophobia or anxiety issues, and I am in that group, and you have a lot of people using various coping strategies, including having support animals, to be able to get on a plane. Or just get through their day.

    Those of you that can go through the airport bs and get on a plane without issues, good for you. Wish I could too. But there are lots of folks who can’t.

    It costs a lot of money to raise and train support animals. A guide dog for the blind is in the range of $20,000. I don’t know the figures for other animals or needs. But the point is the figure is not trivial. In the case of guide dogs at least, you’re not getting one if you don’t have a legitimate need. I suspect that is the case for other service animals as well, purely based on what it costs to train them.

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    I saw someone with one of those plush collar things on a short flight recently. I think they are made for traveling.

    You shouldn't assume they are going on a short flight though. They could have a connecting and/or a long subsequent trip on another means of transportation, such as car or bus.

    Also they may be gone for a week or more, and it can be hard to find quality care for your pet.
     
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    Good Lord John, grab your acoustic guitar and begin a song with these lyrics. Hah
     
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    First world problem.

    I remember once years ago when a particular African local leader would not get in our plane unless he took his cows.


    And yes incompetence and mediocrity is what every teacher strives for in students these days. Having no winnwers and losers creates this.
     
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