Affordable Attenuator

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  1. El Tele Lobo

    El Tele Lobo Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    I really would like to be able to run my Champ "opened up" but at a non-ear-splitting volume (neighbors, tinnitus, etc., et al, ad nauseam) and am considering an attenuator. I was looking at the JHS Little Black Amp Box. It requires no power. One of the descriptions said to put it in an effects loop, but obviously, the Champ has no such thing. Anyone use one of these? Could it work on the front end of an amp as well?

    Any other suggestions for simple, compact, low-cost attenuation?
     
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    The little black amp box is nothing more than distortion pedal from the looks of it. The only way you’ll come close to the true sound of your cranked amp at lower volume levels is with an attenuator. Otherwise, you’re just overdriving the preamp and more than likely coloring the tone. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
     
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    The Jet City Jettenuator, and its clone the Behringer PS1 are inexpensive and effective. I use a clone by Thomann under the Harley Benton brand, and I wouldn't be without it.

    They go between the amp and speaker and consist of an L-Pad and a set of resistors.
     
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    Weber Micromass works great up to 15W, loads your amp like a speaker motor (good), and offers separate bass and treble dials, which may be especially handy on a Champ.
     
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    The JHS Little black is a regular volume control in a box that's why you need an effects loop. It reduces a line level signal you need a real attenuator.
    You can build your own pretty cheap or any basic attenuator should work fine for a champ.
    https://guitar.com/guides/diy-workshop/diy-workshop-build-your-own-attenuator/
     
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    I prefer the Weber design as well, but I only like to use the attenuator for a minor drop in volume instead of a large one. I think you lose something trying to reduce it too much.

    Wait for the neighbors to leave and sit behind the amp...problem solved.
     
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    I used to use an attenuator with my Hot Rod Deluxe. THD Hotplate. But I found the sound ended up muffled and without tone. So I sold it.

    And later sold the Hot Rod Deluxe. Now I just use a Victoria 805 or Vibro Champ.
     
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    Sounds good guys. I guess I'll stick with my boost pedals and the occasional crank up when the neighbors are out.
     
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    My advice is don't buy a cheap attenuator. You'll never be happy with it.

    I've had a few different brands. I'm now using a Palmer attenuator. It was the only one I found demonstrated on You Tube using a clean sound, so you could really hear if the sparkle was still in the sound as it was turned down. I also liked the fact that they don't even attempt to get down to "bedroom levels". ANY amp is going to sound different then, if only for the lack of speaker moving air.
     
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    I like my Weber minimass 50 watt with my tweed princeton and deluxe reverbs
     
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    For a Champ, I would use nothing less than,(and i don't) a Swart Night light JR. No tone robbing.
     
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    I have a Jettenuator and it's fine. But for smaller amps I don't think you can beat a Night Light Jr. I have one in my tweed Deluxe and use it all the time.
     
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    +1 for the Jettenuator. I have one and use it multiple lower watt amps and it works great. And the nice thing with this one is that you can use a speaker cab with a different impedance requirement than what the amp puts out.
     
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    I still thing the right distortion pedal does the cranked amp sound best.
    Attenuators don't push the speaker at low volume and that's a big part of THAT sound. A distortion pedal can emulate the sound of a cranked amp and speaker.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    this........
     
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    That affordable Distortion could be a Joyo American Sound.
    it has a powerful EQ section and the gain & drive part gives you a lot of range from clean Twin sounds to 5E3 grit.
    ..while keeping the volume at bay. ;)
     
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    I feel your pain. I recently played a Victoria champ and had it cooking. Majestic tone. Didnt feel I needed reverb, delay or anything. Just the guitar volume and varied playing dynamics.

    DON’T RUN THE JHS BLACK BOX IN THE FRONT END OF YOUR CHAMP!
     
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    Yeah...it looks like all these attenuators have to run either in an effects loop if there is one or between the amp and speaker. Neither of which will work for my amp, if I recall. One of my two amps has the speaker cable hard-wired in rather than in a jack. I think it's the Champ, but I'd have to look.
     
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