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If an LDR roach is lit but not flashing (that was working yesterday on a band new build), is it broke? The trem was working fine, now its not. I tried swapping tubes.
I tried temporarily wiring in New caps parralel to each of the 3 oscillator caps.
Same with each of v5's cathode caps.
Nothing. Bad roach?
 

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No, the problem's in the circuit the drives the roach. It's not oscillating and if its a bad cap putting ones in parallel without disconnecting the originals won't do anything. Since its a new build I'd start looking at your solder and for burned-looking parts.

The roach has no brains of its own, it can only follow its electrical orders. Now, if it didn't light at all that could be an open roach. They do go bad, not too often.
 

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If an LDR roach is lit but not flashing (that was working yesterday on a band new build), is it broke? The trem was working fine, now its not. I tried swapping tubes.
I tried temporarily wiring in New caps parralel to each of the 3 oscillator caps.
Same with each of v5's cathode caps.
Nothing. Bad roach?
Bulb should not be lit. Light from the neon decreases resistance on LDR which is the "R2" of an R1-R2 network.Sounds like DC is getting to the bulb. Check the neon drive side with scope for waveform or DC. If DC, leaky cap is to blame.
 

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Bulb should not be lit solid when tremolo is on. Is it lit with tremolo off?. Light from the neon decreases resistance on LDR which is the "R2" of an R1-R2 network.Sounds like DC is getting to the bulb. Check the neon drive side with scope for waveform or DC. If DC, leaky cap on osc. is to blame.
***there is a DC bias on the bulb, but it is the AC waveform riding on the DC bias that flashes the bulb.***
 
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Bulb should not be lit. Light from the neon decreases resistance on LDR which is the "R2" of an R1-R2 network.Sounds like DC is getting to the bulb. Check the neon drive side with scope for waveform or DC. If DC, leaky cap is to blame.
So the 220k V5A plate load resistor had blown. It was hard to see. I replaced it, but now the trem works fine, but the pots (intensity and speed) are noisy/scratchy. And playing guitar through the amp while trem is on... every other strum/note sounds scratchy/distorted. When the trem is off, amp sounds fine. The amp wasnt like this before that resistor blew.
 

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So the 220k V5A plate load resistor had blown. It was hard to see. I replaced it, but now the trem works fine, but the pots (intensity and speed) are noisy/scratchy. And playing guitar through the amp while trem is on... every other strum/note sounds scratchy/distorted. When the trem is off, amp sounds fine. The amp wasnt like this before that resistor blew.
You should not hear noise on the speed pot. It is not in the audio path.
What chassis is this?
 

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You should not hear noise on the speed pot. It is not in the audio path.
What chassis is this?
Its a twin reverb reissue chassis that I converted to a hand-wired AB763.
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The more I mess with it, the speed pot doesnt seem noisy. Neither does the intensity, really.
Just any sound played through the amp when the trem is on sounds scratchy.
Which would make me think lead dress... but I know its not because the amp worked fine for a week. This issue only started after that resistor blew.
 

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Sorry, without thinking -- just had my first sip of coffee -- ya gotta wonder what blew the resistor...
 

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Sorry, without thinking -- just had my first sip of coffee -- ya gotta wonder what blew the resistor...
Yeah, exactly. The only other thing I changed before it blew... the intensity pot lug 1 was grounded to the pot itself... but I connected it to to the preamp ground line.
 

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Chopstick the LDR without tremolo on. If it makes static, you've got a bad LDR. Otherwise, replace the three caps on the osc. If the LDR is OK, I think maybe one of the caps are leaking onto the bias line.. I don't think it's worth investigating which one it is.
 
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Ok everything sounds good again.
It was something simple.
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This Flying bunch of wires accidentally got pushed down against the roach and everything there. Trem is sensitive.
But I"m still not sure what blew that resistor. Here are the voltages.
The power amp voltages are good too.
 

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Those wires are X and Y, they are the summing points to the input of the PI. Very high impedance and very sensitive audio lines. As for the resistor, does it show signs of stress? If so, that tube may have a problem. Do you have tube testers?
 

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Those wires are X and Y, they are the summing points to the input of the PI. Very high impedance and very sensitive audio lines. As for the resistor, does it show signs of stress? If so, that tube may have a problem. Do you have tube testers?
No signs of Stress. And looking at the busted resistor, it doesnt even look burnt. It just looks... broke. The new one isn't getting hot (granted, its a 1 watt).
I have a basic emissions tester (Eico 625), which doesn't show any problems.
 
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