A word in favor of 'zombie' threads

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  1. jhundt

    jhundt Doctor of Teleocity

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    There was some discussion in a post about TDPRI history that suggested that people should not bring up zombie threads; someone suggested a 5 year age limit. One of the reasons given was that it is a bit sad to see posts written by members who are now deceased or gone for other reasons. Another reason was that a person might not want to see his own old posts because he had 'moved on' from previously held and stated positions.

    And apparently, it's newly signed-on members who are mostly responsible for digging up these old threads.

    I just want to say this about that, as I see it:

    I do not feel sad when I see old posts from members and friends who are now gone. In fact, I am sometimes surprised to see the name of a favorite poster - and happy to hear his opinion - before I realize that I'm reading a 10-year-old thread. That doesn't bother me. I am happy to feel, just for a moment, like an old friend is still around. And he is, even if just here on the TDPRI, just for a moment his memory is alive and he is remembered. What more can anyone ask after they are gone?

    And when I realize that I am re-reading and reacting to a 10-year-old thread, I usually have a chuckle because apparently I am still interested in the same subject!

    As to being a bit shy about your own old posts: well don't be. You said it, that's all there is to say. It's on the record. This modern world doesn't allow all that hiding-of-the-past that older generations practiced. If you have changed since then we probably all have noticed, and we either like you or dislike you based on your current self.

    As to the newbies being guilty: most of them have probably arrived from somewhere after following that age-old wisdom "Google is your friend". They have been referred by Google to a thread that concerns their quest for information. After reading said thread, they pose a follow-up question or comment, astounded by their discovery of this fountain of wisdom. And then they get shot down by the first response, which is usually one of the "grumpy old men" suggesting that they stop reviving zombie threads.
     
  2. Matthias

    Matthias Friend of Leo's

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    Personally, I prefer to see the conversations dug up than people ask the same old questions afresh on a new thread, but I understand the arguments against.
     
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    Can we just call them Vintage Threads?

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    no, then they would become valuable, and we couldn't afford them.
     
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    I agree with that. The only thing that seems a little problematic is outdated information (i.e. if you are reading through a thread about a product with an 8 year gap between posts and now the previous post has incorrect information directly next to new discussion which could be a little misleading)

    Other than that I'd rather read through one thread about a given topic than 14 that have 3 posts each.
     
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    Yeah I always thought the old rule against resurrecting zombie threads was senseless
     
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    jhundt, AGREE! When I see a thread with stantheman or Robbie Wallace or tdot or roli or TIM or 20 other guys who I just LOVED how their brains worked and their ideas and thoughts and humor...

    I get notices once in awhile and it makes me so glad for those times.... Jack Wells builds and insights.... colonel robert morris (among the funniest, most fraud lade crapola, but the way everyone responded ruled.)

    When guys pass... the loss is palpable, but man, we sure had some fun here while folks were living, right? and our memories are ours to keep and revisit... sometimes when I post I think, if some soul comes along and hears my voice that would be pretty cool... not that they'd agree or not that it would influence or any of that... just the sharing of ideas EVEN and ESPECIALLY when we don't agree....

    I've also made a few lifelong friends here who I'm grateful for coming here (originally in 2000) and then with my current name later...
     
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    Of course, my logic falls apart when people start answering the OP’s question, 12 years after they last logged in :D
     
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    I like rising zombie threads. Information should be jointed in one topic.

    if you google about... for example, a THR10 there are too many threads talking about the same. I would likt to have all those information in ONE topic...

    Speaker for a Blues Junior... pickups for a tele... tubescreamer delight... too many separate topics IMO
     
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    I am going to wait until this thread is reliced, about 10 years, before reviving it and posting my opinion
     
  12. DavidP

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    No issues here with zombie threads... Nice to follow the history and evolution (or devolution!) of a thread/topic!!
     
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    When it comes to doing research on gear..zombie threads are very valuable resource and when a post happens you get some time in between to get more detailed reviews or performance reliability
     
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    When we’ve had an actual Zombie Apocalypse then these old jokes about zombies won’t seem so funny then, will they?!?

    Until then — long live the zombie thread (subject to the proviso about out of date information imho).
     
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    First, gonna voice my agreement that I'd rather see old threads expanded than new ones started from scratch that rehash all the same old material.

    Second, having been a pop-culture-purveying company's community manager for a while, I can say one reason for discouraging the dredging up of old threads is because people sometimes quote an 8-year-old post with the usual "here's why this is totally wrong," and they're totally wrong. If the original poster has no interest in returning to that topic or isn't around to see it, then people wonder, "why isn't Bob559 sticking up for himself?" It's a minor point, but it happens.
     
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    Yeah! I love old threads… there’s still lots of useful stuff in there! Let’s call them “road worn” threads so there is no necrotic implication but also no risk of costs escalating!
     
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    If I'm searching for a topic I almost NEVER look at the date the thread was started. As such, I'm guilty of reviving an occasional zombie thread. I'm also guilty of learning a lot from zombie threads - regardless of who resurrected them. So I say "Long Live the Zombie Thread" - now get off my lawn...
     
  18. PeterUK

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    ‘Zombie threads’ are an awesome knowledge base and photographic resource and should be used as such, but care should be taken when quoting [passed and dormant] members from those threads as it could send alerts to email addresses of deceased members possibly causing upset and distress (see @TG’s comments above as one example).

    @jhundt: we know each other and I’ve got the upmost respectful for you, but I’m sure we can agree to disagree on this know that old threads will be revived every week!

    :D Peter
     
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    Yep, I'm guilty. I have opened them up and replied. But after going back through the thread I have seen members that have passed. Kinda warming to me. Also I have gotten info from those old threads. But alas I always....

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  20. jhundt

    jhundt Doctor of Teleocity

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    of course! I am not even necessarily disagreeing; I am just not clear why anyone is against them. Until now I have seen little reason to be opposed. I note your comment about possibly causing distress to family members. I would be interested to hear from any family member that felt distress after a zombie thread is revived. So far I have never heard of that from anyone.

    When a guy is gone, what is left? Maybe some things that he owned. Maybe a grave site. His family misses him. If he was a popular guy in the community, others may miss him too.

    If he was a normal guy like me, he will be quickly forgotten. Life goes on, that's just the way it is. But to have your name pop up years after you are dead and gone, and to have people reading and considering your thoughts and opinions, and maybe even mistakenly responding to your comments as if you are still here - that's immortality, the way I see it.

    So it's cool Peter, we see this in different ways. No problem. I hope to see you at the London Jam.
     
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