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A true-or-false computer question

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Charlie Bernstein, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. getbent

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    Every apple needs to be cleaned out and have the firmware and software reloaded after some number of years.
    Clearing cookies and cache is a temp solution when the thing hasn't been cleaned in a long time.
    I'd guess that a newer computer could be fine with mountains of cookies left in there munching away at the ram or whatever they do with their free time.

    I clear cookies and cache once or twice a day and sometimes I can't load a page until I clear because it's a 2012 and has never been dumped and reloaded.
     
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    Not sure but I'd bet the cookie one site installs today takes up more ram than an entire commodore 64 had for capacity.

    Do the cookies move into the ram?
    Or are they installed on the drive?
    Think of them as fleas and ticks or sweat after a workout.
     
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    A cookie maxes out at 4K, so a few would fit in ram on a C64.

    But a page can have 50. And almost no modern web pages would actually fit in memory. Cookies are not the big hog of memory on a web page.
     
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    Yes, true.
     
  6. Charlie Bernstein

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    How old is your Mac?
    How fast or slow is your internet access?
    Do you use Adblock?

    When I turned Adblock on my speed increased, but that was only a couple of years ago when it seemed like many sites felt a need to load multiple gifs and videos all at the same time.
    I decided to hell with them and some responded to hell with me.
    Good riddance to sites that must invade my computer with unwanted drivel!

    As far as the suggestions that clearing the cache will slow us down due to needing to reload the same cache, I always clear it and almost always load much faster as a result. Could be it’s only clearing cookies that brings speed back but I may not want to carry the cache of sites I visit infrequently and don’t see an option to hold the cache of favorite sites so i clear everything with good results.

    Again though this is an old Mac in need of a firmware reload.
    Here’s what I clear at least once a day:
     
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    I think it must have something to do with how many connections are made today when visiting a site. If you ever take a look in uBlock Origin, there is more often than not a crazy number of connections per site. Advertising, data harvesting, content delivery, and so forth.
     
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    So using theoretical max numbers, logging onto five websites each with 50 cookies @ 4K each would load one gig of cookies into our ram?Them longer term use makes say 50 websites being visited resulting in 100 gigs of ram taken up by cookies?
    That seems significant enough to clean out regularly!
     
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    Cookies don’t go in RAM, certainly not all at once.

    And most cookies are nowhere near 4K.

    A cookie goes on disk.

    If you visit the website that put it there, the browser will reload it and send it to the website.

    A simple example would be saving your username so that when you come back to this website.

    The first time you login the website sends the cookie and your browser stores it.

    The next time you come back the browser loads and sends the cookie and TDPRI knows who you are.

    Again with this example, TDPRI has 2 cookies in my browser:
    xf_session - the session ID - 42 bytes
    xf_user - username 56 bytes

    Both are encoded & not human readable. In the non-idiot marketing world software & hardware people live in the units would be:

    1Kb = 1024 bytes
    1Mb = 1024Kb
    1Gb = 1024Mb

    I don't really think you need to worry about gigabytes of ram being consumed by cookies unless you start opening up a hundred thousand tabs at once.
     
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    It's a few years old. Five? It's OS X, El Capitan.

    Slow.

    No.
     
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    So, is the Vox AC30 a true class A amp?

    Ask a simple question, why isn't the answer simple???
     
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