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A Sincere Inquiry About A Certain Song

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Bill Sheehan, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM.

  1. TheGoodTexan

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    I haven't seen this posted yet... but I thought that it got so much flack because of the arrogance of the lyrics themselves, particularly the chorus.

    "We built this city" was not them saying, "everyone who was there at the beginning, or even at Woodstock, are the real rock and roll."

    It was them saying, "We, that is, Mickey Thomas and Grace Slick, WE built all of this - the ability for everyone to make a living at rock and roll. And don't you forget it."

    I don't think the hatred for the song has anything to do with production, radio play, performance, popularity, or anything like that. It had to do with the perceived arrogance of Thomas and Slick for trying to take sole credit for something that was much bigger than them.

    I didn't come up with that - I know that I've read it over and over through the years.
     
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    For the record, I hated this song before hating it was cool, mostly for the reasons stated by TheGoodTexan.
     
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    I like it, but what do I know.
     
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    notmyusualuserid Friend of Leo's

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    It's only hyperbolic lyrics man. Chill.
     
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    ... hey, it was the best they could do at the time
     
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    I dislike upbeat, cheesy, over-produced, mainstream soft rock.

    But I am in the minority.

    Besides disliking it, I have no problem with the mainstream. It's the mainstream for a reason. Lots of people like it.

    I like to think that the music I like has more substance to it than mainstream mush. But then I like to think a lot of things that might be wrong.

    I also like to tap my foot and sing along to a hook. Just not that one.

    I'm tired today.
     
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    the whole decade was a very dark time for straight ahead rock acts
     
  8. Bill Sheehan

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    I think I get what you're saying, Ed.
     
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    I suppose that depends on your circle. Tango doesn’t get much guff from people in general but that’s probably because it never was very big. The group of Fleetwood Mac heads I know has plenty of ire for it though.

    (Huh. I just looked it up and it seems that it was a bit bigger than I thought it was. Good thing that doesn’t mean we have to like it.)
     
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  10. StrangerNY

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    It makes more sense if you sing 'we bilked this city.'

    That said, I count that song as a guilty pleasure. Cheese, sure. But extremely shiny cheese.

    - D
     
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    most of that eras music formula for ercording was the same, drums or electronic simmons kit up front , bass on top, rhtym guiyara & keys , Vocals on top with tons of compression and distorted leads on that , every flippin song .......A corporate formula for every song, while some good songs came out of this mess , it had to change . or better yet grow!
     
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    it hurts my ears..it's like it some kind of announcement. :lol:
     
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    I would rather hear The Hokie Pokie.

    https://bestclassicbands.com/we-built-this-city-1-7-17/

    Sheds light on this dumpster fire.

    Ms. Slick from the article:

    Looking back at her involvement in Starship, Slick is open about that phase of her career, which turned out to be her musical swan song save for a short-lived 1989 Airplane reunion—Slick retired after that and today is a painter. “That’s a whole different deal there,” she said of Starship. “That’s a working commercial, professional, older…it’s not a kids’ band. We’ve been around for a while, we know the ropes, we go on tour, we do the ****. We get pimple cream sponsorship. We do the whole thing. It’s a commercial band. It got boring after a while. But it didn’t bother me. We weren’t doing anything wrong. We just weren’t doing anything interesting.”
     
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    Wasn't that the title of the Kustom Amplifiers documentary?
     
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    Like it. Crank it. That’s all you need to worry about.
     
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    I didn't think it was necessarily a baaad song, just that it epitomized the worst of the '80s cheese.
     
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    It think it really took off after they changed the lyrics from "we built this city on concrete and rebar"
     
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    Why am I hearing that statement in a Dom Irerra voice?

     
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    So easy to parody....


     
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    I’m a big Marty Balin fan, and I’m glad he had nothing to do with this song.

    I never cared for the song that much, but everything is relative to the listener’s ears.

    Grace Slick’s voice is branded on quite a few iconic songs, so she’s allowed to have a clinker in my book.
     
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