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A Sincere Inquiry About A Certain Song

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Bill Sheehan, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM.

  1. Bill Sheehan

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    It seems that the song "We Built This City" tends to be generally despised (at least that's the impression I get), and I have to be honest, I never understood why. I really liked it when it first came out years ago. I heard it on the radio the other day, and rather than change the station, my immediate response was to crank it up! It always seems to get me moving. So, I sincerely ask, why the hate for this tune? Am I missing something?
     
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    Didn't we do this last week? Or the week before.
     
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    It’s kind of a crummy cheese fest and a good example of a band from another time trying to stay stylistically relevant so it was bound to rub some people the wrong way. When something becomes a unit of cultural currency instead of just a song it’s harder to get rid of.
     
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    Everyone's taste is different. I never liked the tune, but it does have a hook that stays with you...
     
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    It's commercial junk crafted to work on MTV in the mid 80's. It is a predecessor of today's commercial pop, written to appeal to a wide demographic but with little substance, lyrically or musically.
     
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    Hahahahahaha! Probably so! I should've checked before stirring up a re-hash!
    [EDIT: Yup, there's a bunch! Sorry!]
     
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    If you loved the Airplane and had to see them doing that.........painful
     
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    I always thought Cheech and Chong should have done a version about Tijuana.

    "We Built This City On Tuck And Roll"
     
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    If one likes a song or doesn't like it, so what? There is no accounting for taste. Rock critic opinions? Internet opinions? Do they make you change your mind about a song you like or dislike? So what?
     
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    Ultimately, songs are written for the masses and if the listeners like them, they've done their job. The artistes and record companies aren't concerned about what other musicians think of them; they're in it for the money. And why not...

    Edit: Alnico beat me to it. :)
     
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    I don't recall another thread on this topic.

    But I DO love that song.
    Mickey Thomas and Grace Slick killed on the vocals, that much is true.

    And the production was top-notch.

    I personally think it got a lot of hate because:

    * It took jabs at the recording industry and record executives

    * MTV played it a lot, perhaps over-playing it, to the point of nausea

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    * It was very popular

    'Popular' breeds contempt.

    Just ask the New England Patriots, McDonald's, Chevrolet, and Budweiser about that.
    :oops:
     
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    Don't leave out Gibson.
     
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    It's reviled by me because the writers made a booboo.

    The line "Marconi plays the mamba" implies snake-handling religion. A mamba is a snake.

    I think they intended "mambo" (dance) but it was too late; the band had already staggered back onto the bus and done a few bumps of nosecandy by the time the producer realized there was a fatal typo, so the tune went out like it was.


    I actually like the tune myself :cool:
     
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    I thought he was a fan of chewy candy. We have to get to the bottom of this.
     
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    I always found it a catchy tune - never had the need to play it
     
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    It's one of those cheesy vapid songs that is mostly remembered now because it epitomizes a point in time. It's like Mr Roboto by Styx or My Girl Wants To Party All The Time by Eddie Murphy. These songs are musical shorthand and a million movies have used them to makes statements about how dumb and greedy the 80s supposedly were.

    Some people love to say how much they love it and others love to say how much they hate it because it's such a touchstone song and it screams 80s. The songs production is the most 80s thing ever. When I think of We Built This City Casey Kasem's voice and the countdown immediately pop into my head. It's also a very earnest and corny song which was a common thing in the 80s but went out of fashion in the early 90s and has never came back in quite the same way.

    I think there are worse songs but I would never go out of my way to hear We Built This City and like I said it's a song that's become more than a song because of the nostalgia it invokes, good or bad depending on your POV.
     
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    I always liked the airplane , Slick was a monster vocalist and fine looking as well ,

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    I was never fond of the birth of hairbands genre, but to stay valid during that time some had to move with the flow , EG Edgar Winter and his Brother were far too talented to have got sucked into the glam rock personas , but did it anyways , same with the airplane/starship , so much history so much talent and finally sucomming to the glitz of the day.Just tyo stay valid. how many bands sported mullet hairdos and wife beater tee shirts of the day ? or disco era stuff , its enough to make one appeciate the first Punk genre or New wave , these are just lables applied by the corporate sponsors of the day , commercial music started to suck when Nike and Coke started to sponsor bands and control the music industry ........my HO
     
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    Yet you don't see such ire directed at Tango in the Night, a whole album full of corporate AOR.

    Especially the Je t'aime moi non plus for the 80s, Big Love. "Ah" "uh" "ah" "uh" featuring Stevie Nicks on lead floaty dress swirling and Lindsay Buckingham on manly pouting.

    domeafavour :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeesh, I just read that Bernie Taupin had a hand in writing this mess.

    Someone always playing corporation games
    Who cares, they're always changing corporation names
    We just want to dance here, someone stole the stage
    They call us irresponsible, write us off the page
    Marconi plays the mamba
    Listen to the radio
    Don't you remember?
    We built this city
    We built this city on rock an' roll

    And as noted above, the mamba is a snake not to be confused with the dance mambo.
    There are much worse songs though in my opinion.
     
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    As original Saturday Night Live writer Anne Beatts famously said, "You can only be avant-garde for so long, before you become garde." "We Built This City" was an example of a '60s and '70s band desperately trying to stay relevant in the 1980s and overreaching quite a bit, by embracing all of the technology that defined the era: the synths, the drum machines, the gated snare, the very processed production techniques. I didn't think it was that awful a song, at the time, but for many listeners, it's become the song that summed up what MTV-driven '80s pop/rock sounded like.

    "We Built This City" was produced by Peter Wolf (No, not the former lead singer of the the J. Geils Band, the other guy) who used all of the same production techniques on records by Heart at during the mid-'80s, but somehow, they emerged slightly less tarnished after the decade was over, perhaps because the underlying songs were a bit better.
     
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