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A question regarding lumber thickness.

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by xtemplarx, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. xtemplarx

    xtemplarx TDPRI Member

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    As most people are well aware, modern "lumber" cuts are less than the posted sizes, i.e., 2x4s are not 2"x4". Older lumber may actually be proper dimensions but certainly not most modern lumber.

    Here's my question: how thick does a tele body need to be to be considered close to proper? I recognize that the schematic says 1.75" deep. Is 1.5" too thin? What problems will I encounter if I'm missing that extra 0.25" of depth? I've read that the neck attachment screws are one notable area. Any others?
     
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    Some jacks can be too deep, additionally some types of tremolos (jazzmaster, for example).
     
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    jimdkc Friend of Leo's

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    Control cavity might not be deep enough for some switches.
     
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    Colt W. Knight Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Ive measured some vintage teles at 1 5/8", 1 9/16" and 1 3/4"

    You can make a tele 1 1/2 inches ( I believe some Squier models are). The control cavitiy would be 1 3/8" deep instead of 1 1/2".
     
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    +1. I've actually done 1 1/2" guitars and I liked them.
     
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    I've made a lot of guitars that are only 1-1/2" thick. No issues to report. ;)
     
  7. fretman_2

    fretman_2 Friend of Leo's

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    1.5" is ok. I've been using Les Paul type switches lately in my builds which aren't very deep (I'm not concerned with being totally authentic and I want to be a bit different). You can get by with a shallower control cavity that way. After that...everything else is the same...I route my pickup cavities 3/4" deep and the neck cavity 5/8" deep. I've also been using the oval jack plates which don't seem to take up too much real estate.

    And regarding the neck screws...you'd still route your neck pocket 5/8" deep even if the body was only 1.5".

     
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    But that 1/4" you're missing can make the screws too long. Shorten them a little.
     
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    fretman_2 Friend of Leo's

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    Yep...you can get shorter screws at Ace.

     
  10. xtemplarx

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    Thanks, all for the input! I'm trying to remove any excuses for giving my first attempt at a guitar a go. Rather than wait for "ideal" lumber, I wanna go ahead and start practicing my jointing and shaping with the stock and scrap that I already have available to me. Odd that all this should be a problem, considering my father has a full-sized kiln and a portable sawmill. He has a thing for oak, though, so there's not much in the way of traditional tone woods to be found around the workshop...
     
  11. fretman_2

    fretman_2 Friend of Leo's

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    Don't wait for the ideal...I built this before built my first Tele clone.

    IMAG0083.jpg

    It's been my main gigging guitar since!!

     
  12. xtemplarx

    xtemplarx TDPRI Member

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    Gives a whole new meaning to the term "slab guitar"! Love that green burst. :D
     
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    fretman_2 Friend of Leo's

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    Thanks...done with a childrens water color set!!

     
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    bullfrogblues Friend of Leo's

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    I have two teles that are 1 1/2" thick, no problems.
    Might not work for a trem bridge, though.
     
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    I used to work in a planermill and a 2x4 was actually 1 9/16" x 3 9/16" before drying.

    A Paulownia GFS blem Tele-style body that I recently bought that is 1 7/8" thick.

    It's nearly as thick as one of my hollowbodies. :eek:
     
  16. Mike Simpson

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    For a 1.5" body... only two things are affected.

    The neck screws need to be .25" shorter, if you can't find shorter screws cut some to the right length and sand a point on them with a belt sander.

    The control cavity is just barely deep enough tor a Tele 3 way switch. Mount your switch on the plate and rest it on top of the body and bark how deep it needs to be and set yout router to that depth. You may need to bend the lugs at a 90 degree angle.

    This guitar is made out of the 2x4's from a shipping pallet... I have played 80 gigs with it.

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    The first Esquires were made of pine and 1.5" thick. Someone here wrote that Fender glued together two pieces of the 3/4" pine they were using for their amplifier cabinets.
     
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    That's actually really cool! I really like it :cool: It's kind of like a Bo Diddley guitar.

    No fancy schmancy gut cut there! :D
     
  19. fretman_2

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    Sweet guitar Mike!!

     
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    Thanks...this is my main gigging guitar too. Someone in the audience always comes up to ask about it!

     
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