A question for folks with collector grade vintage gear...

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by hellopike, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. agogetr

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    if you have a mint or near mint vintage guitar. its a good investment so you dont want to use it, sell it and buy one with a little wear, pocket the extra cash and play the tar out of the one you bought
     
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    a harley is a good chick repellent unless of course she is an AARP participant.
    mine just sit, i,m gonna eat it too when i sell them
     
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    the bouncer is supposed to take care of those matters however its usually the bouncer in the drunken brawl ha ha
     
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    its not priceless now. however a 53 tele is a guitar that was so 'right' just like a 58 to 60 burst. theres a reason they are big bucks.
     
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    i have an old locking anvil i used to lay behind my marshall with a small cable run from the case to the caster on the cab, i never worried on breaks but would still belly up to the bar with one eye still on the stage. going to the restroom id have a bud in the band keep an eye out, my bandmates were all actually pretty considerate about it. it wasnt a big deal. most people in bars dont give a dam about what the guitar guy is playing ,its just a cool guitar lol of course thinks may have changed nowadays
     
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    dan1952 Friend of Leo's

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    I didn't really worry till people started coming up and saying, "Hey, that gittar's really old, ain't it? I bet that's worth a lot of money!"
     
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    The other thing to remember is that a lot of people who say the old stuff isn’t worth the money or that the new stuff is as good/better either:

    1- haven’t had a lot of experience with a lot of examples of the old stuff

    2- can’t afford the truly great stuff

    2 kind of goes along with one and I was lucky to get into old guitars at the tail end of affordability, but for people that got into the game around the time of eBay (20 or so years ago) just haven’t gotten the exposure to a lot of the good old stuff.

    These days some pos guitar from the 70s or 80s is “vintage” - and don’t get me started on what used to be flea market stuff.

    It’s human nature to dislike what you can’t have and the internet is an echo chamber.

    I can’t honestly believe that if someone was offered (woth the caveat that it couldn’t be sold) a Burst or an R9 or a CS Tele or original Blackguard they would take the new one.

    There is some nice new stuff. I have a Tweed Twin and love it. It was really affordable (I got it from Fender at a discount) but if anyone out there wants to swap me for an old one let me know.
     
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    There are plenty of good reasons to own old stuff and gig it and plenty of good reasons not to, as well. Silly to pretend, otherwise.

    What I would like to know is why folks drop $5k-$20k on new custom shop guitars and never play them for fear of loosing value. They loose their value the second they leave the sales floor.

    As someone who owns all types, I keep some of my vintage guitars at home or use them in the studio to record but never gig them - they tend to sound the best but are too valuable to gig with. I take some vintage stuff to gigs and also record with it - and, I own CS stuff that mostly sees stage time and sometimes gets recorded as well.

    It’s not that complicated and I certainly don’t see why there’s any controversy in any of it...
     
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    Here's what I think. I have no problem with historic guitars being preserved for posterity. Putting them in a glass case or protected location and reserved for careful examination or use by scholars and true guitar virtuoso works for me. Will a 1950 Telecaster made by Leo Fender compare with a viola made by Antonio Stradivari made in 1719? How may instrument actually made by Leo Fender are still around? I have no idea, but the Stradivari made in 1719 sold for $45 Million 300 years later. What will a 300 year old Leo Fender Telecaster sell for in 2250?

    Interestingly enough the contreversy surrounding the Stradivarius and a Telecaster are much the same, their sound defies attempts to explain. So they say.
     
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    I think this is a question for Walter Benjamin.
     
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    My Tele ('89 Custom Shop) & '72 Strat are semi-vintage, but my pride & joy is my '65 Ventures Mosrite Mark I. I'll play it on a gig, but I AM kinda relieved when it's back in it's case after the gig is over. MosEm.jpeg
     
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    I have a few guitars that have significant sentimental value to me, and are becoming collectible - I’d be devastated if anything happened to them even though they are only worth maybe a few thousand $. I still do play them, and if I gigged, they’d be with me.

    If I had a pristine black guard, or 57 strat, with tags, like new, you bet they’d never leave the house, or bank vault apart from once a year. I’d make Scrooge Mcduck look chilled out.

    If they were player grade, ok, but not truly pristine examples. At some point things become history.
     
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    that happened to me a couple of times with my old strat, believe it or not i told them i had 'my guy' make it look old.lol
    my old strat is louder than any other one i have played, its the one thats going to get used. that one and my 64 thats been run over by a car(twice) but its awesome.
     
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    A few years ago I was on tour and we had a couple shows at Mohegan Sun, the big casino. My wife and kids came and some of our family came down from Massachusetts as well. Since there was a day off after the last show I had her bring my '60 Burst.

    The guy who was my guitar tech set it up, as it had been in the case for a few months and I played it for two nights. The day of the second show all of my friends/relatives who had come down went to dinner together. I was walking through the little shopping mall they have there and got stopped by a couple guys who were there with their daughters for the show. They stopped me and asked me about my setup. Being that I hate to talk gear with people outside of forums I wasn't really in the mood but I opened up the new case and let them check out my Burst. One guy said it was the nicest R9 he had ever played. I said, well that's good because that's actually a real one. I have seen a couple snapshots of that day on a couple forums.

    Moral of the story if you own it play it. I don't always take super crazy stuff out but nothing I have won't go to a gig. Plus if you're just playing at teh local blooze jam or some corner bar gig just keep it close to you and you'll be fine. The time to be careful is when you're on a bill with a bunch of other bands with a mixed load in/out time.
     
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    I still gig with my '60 Dakota Red Esquire, & one or another vtg BF/Elec Instr Fender amps. I have my orig, near-mint '64 Vibroverb up for sale elsewhere since it's becoming heavier with each passing year tho' it still sounds great.
    For me it's practicality. The Esquire is my favorite electric guitar & it gets used. I have pickups in my '51 D-18 & '57 J-50, those get used as "plug-in acoustics" when the gig requires that. They're meant to be played, sez me.
     
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    hi noah, is your 60 faded and early or later 60? just curious, looks kind of faded in the pic.
     
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    Mine is actually pretty close to a '59 I used to have. It's slightly faded but it's still got a burst to it.
     
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    pretty cool. my pal has an early 60 that faded to kind of a honey burst. the lead pickup reads 8.2 ohms
    his gold top sounds better, i wonder what kind of readings bonamassa's 60 bursts have? i always wondered if a 9 ohm reading would be a better sounding guitar for hard rock
     
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    Not quite so old, but I have a 1964 Gretsch Corvette with a single HiLoTron, no tremolo, a trapeze tail and a reverse 4/2 headstock.

    It's in nice condition but far from mint. If it were in mint condition, I probably wouldn't play it. Mind you, I probably couldn't have afforded it either.

    A school friend from the late 60s / early 70s had a father who worked in a toy shop. When he got presents, there was one he could play with and another that was stashed, unopened and in its box. His father had recognised that these toys would accrue value over time.

    I wonder if he still has them as they were all from iconic TV series and will now be worth a small fortune. My friend always had the best of all worlds!
     
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    Honestly, I don't think I've ever checked ohms on any pickup (or pup for teh toan daddies) I've owned unless there was some problem with the sound.
     
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