A New Pickup Winder Scratch Build!

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  1. Barncaster

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    Nice. May have to do one of those in the future. Far off in the future. I am not starting any new projects until I clear my current slate.
     
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    Did you use the whole 1 lb. roll on that one Rob? Very cool.
     
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    Rob, I've got 4 P90 kits on the desk at home. I need to wind 1 neck and 1 bridge 2 different guitars and these will be the only pups in those guitars. 8000 for neck winding was a recommendation from you as was 10000 bridge in Mojo's Challenge build thread. So, with these guitars being kind of P90 esquires is 8000 and 10,000 still the recommendation? I read the neck P90 can often be muddy and come across weak so that's really why I'm asking.
    Also, should I shield that cavities if these are the old pups?
    Thanks in advance kind sir!
     
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    Hey Chris!
    Wow, I haven't posted in the thread in a while. I was starting to see some of my ideas magically pop up on established sites so these days I prefer to help people directly. This is pretty straight forward however. My poor P90 equipped SG has had quite a pup changing workout lately. A lot has been learned. The standard bridge recipe of 10,000 winds with A2 mags is Leslie West. For a little more sparkle there, A5 mags are recommended. If that tone is still too thick, 9300 works well. This is what I'm currently using and it rocks!

    A lot of experimenting went into figuring out a neck recipe that appealed to my ears. 8000 is still very thick. It's a balance between improved clarity while retaining a lot of mids. It appeals to traditionalists who don't want their Gibson neck pup to sound unlike a Gibson. Not my cup of tea. I wouldn't use any mags except for A5 or A5UO for the neck. The clarity that A5 can help to bring is greatly needed here. Severe underwinding is the key for the neck. I currently have 7200 winds on my SG's neck pup and love it. It is big and clear. I think you'll like the recipe. Also, I found that scattering doesn't work very well with P90s. The coils don't need to be any larger than they already are. Mids we got! Lay the wraps on straight with medium tension. I know this level of underwinding is heresy to Gibson traditionalists but give it a go. You won't be disappointed.

    Reverse the leads and magnet orientations on one pickup for hum cancellation in the mid position and definitely shield the cavities. Wax potting is highly recommended. Also remember, the magnet relationships to the keeper have to be the same. So for this set, both magnet's north edges go to the keeper on one pup and both south edges to the other.
    Rob
     
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    Notes taken . . .
     
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    Good. Then in a year when I need this info, I'll ask you :)
     
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    He's the best what can I say. My dad said a couple of weeks with his current work schedule. I'll see if I can find some lefty players to test the pups out :eek::D
     
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    Thanks, Nosmo. Nobody's ever asked me to remember something for them before. I don't remember why. I feel vindicated, finally.
     
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    I visited a wire factory in Taiwan last week! Very interesting. They're using 30-40 year old equipment there, because apparently the basic tech hasn't changed much. They don't make pickup wire at that plant, though, so I didn't grab any samples...
     
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    Any pix? I don't think wire drawing technology has ever changed.

    I visited some wire drawing plants here in Georgia that General Sherman's firebugs had apparently missed, and know how it works for big wire, but I can't begin to imagine how you could pull enough tension on tiny pickup wire to force it through a die, reducing its diameter.
     
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