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A lesson in modern work place before it's too late.

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by imwjl, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. imwjl

    imwjl Poster Extraordinaire

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    One's ISP account at home could log more than some might realize. Then again I laugh at a friend who's kind of hell bent on libertarian stuff who keeps his WiFi open thinking that gives him plausible deniability.
     
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    too funny. We block what the law requires and nothing more. Want to manage your fantasy football team at work, go for it. Want to shop, okay. Hey, it is your time, you have work to get done, if you can get it done and do that stuff, have at it. Humans! we gotta treat people like humans. the more you treat humans humanely, the more human they are and the more and better work and ideas and creativity you get from them.

    Distrust breeds distrust. Stealing breeds steeling etc. Sure, you MAY have some folks who take advantage, but it is a small number... the rest don't mind coming to work, often stay to finish stuff or work on stuff at home because they appreciate getting to go pick up their kids at school or go to the dentist... or text a meme to a friend.

    I've always worked hard, played hard and my mind goes all over the place all day... no need for drudgery because it slows you down!

    I'm so sorry for some of the situations some have to deal with and even more sorry for the poor folks who create them.
     
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    If you're the IT manager, don't lie about doing backups of the source code for a half billion dollar company's products.
     
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    I used to do business with a guy at a large company. One day, he was gone. His co-worker told me the guy got busted watching porn on his office computer and was put on "performance improvement". Within a week, he was caught again and immediately escorted to the front door with his stuff in a box. The guy had a wife and two kids. I didn't particularly like him, but it's hard to see somebody flame out so dramatically.
     
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    Agree. Fortunately everywhere I've ever worked takes this approach. Sure, if someone is excessively on the computer doing personal business, that needs to be addressed (just like excessive socializing, excessive smoke breaks etc). In my experience, a conversation (or two) usually solves those issues.
     
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    Whenever I have a manager, etc. tell me to do something illegal, unethical, or just plain wrong, I always send them an email with their instructions, saying,
    I wanted to make sure that you wanted me to do ‘X’; I’m just confirming because we’ve generally done ‘Y’, and I needed clarification...”

    I cc their boss and bcc it to my personal/home email (evidence for my lawyer if I get written up/fired).

    I’ve gotten three different managers fired doing that, and (ultimately) lost one job because the owners were the ones pushing to do the improper/illegal things...owners who are under indictment from county, state and federal authorities at this moment.
     
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    Big brother is watching, be it govt., entities or your employer. I'm trending away from phones, computers. Besides I have a guitar or two.
     
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    Even so, if your superior wants to get rid of you for any reason—especially a reason that is illegal—your trivial and innocuous personal use of company resources can and will be used against you to build the file to justify your termination and possible denial of unemployment compensation.
     
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    Integrity - doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.
     
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    Most businesses don't have the resources to track everything, even if recording everything -- it's only if they are fishing for specific people's history due to another outlandish problem that they start digging.

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    Most storage space is filled with this kind of thing.

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    I can't disagree with this. I always gave my team great leeway with regards to internet use. As long as the job got done I was OK with it. A couple of times I had to deal with individuals, but by trusting folks it worked out. I did draw the line at porn. I had a guy kill a couple of machines and I found out from IT that he was downloading a ton of porn. 1st time warning, 2nd time that's it. Gone...
     
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    There are two ways to make money, at any endeavor, product or service. One is by merit, and the other is by trickery. Rules and laws only work for the former, and enable the latter. Think about it...

    Classic rule to live and sleep by. Its a good rule, with no need for an exception at anytime.
     
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    I suppose it depends on the job, but it seems like some company secrets on the front page could be the end of the company’s competitive advantage. Of course, I’ve never worked for a company that does anything via email so in deference to long-standing TDPRI tradition I’m posting from a hole in my butt.
    (Not that hole. Someone tore me a new one.)
     
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    Fact of life #1 - Always tell the truth, even if it hurts to do so. Yeah... it may hurt a bit to tell the truth but a lie will be much deeper pain, and much more long term damage. My Dad taught me this lesson when I was very little... and being caught one time is all it took for me to be "schooled" on this one :cry::(:cool:
     
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    Sadly , it is also a tool of those that lack it to use against those that possess it .
     
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    The fine line of what I block and am often told to unblock is more about protecting the company from malicious software and block attack vectors than controlling how they use their time. The trouble for me is not if someone has interest in sports or something about tingly parts as a layer of protection before the users and endpoints.

    High level staff being their own worst enemies is a problem and that creates policies I don't like to be part of or do. That's tied to this post. Bringing up freedom and distrust are interesting. My own position is often misunderstood - the unconventional hours and at times being all over the company. People don't know my standing on a retail floor or in a hallway with smart phone and earbuds is using a tool. They have a personal frame of reference that's probably a social media app or game but I'm looking at Cisco or Meraki, Microsoft, VMware and Nutanix.

    Many who kick and scream about technology, change and anything new will be getting culture shock pretty much now via the new phone system decision.
     
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    Not that exciting. Someone typed they didn't have time to report or deal with a store level problem where it was on record for others to see days later when it was root cause for a problem that could have been fixed before impacting business. Some tech luddites should not have been so daft to not report it let alone ever type that and then defend it when the president watches Teams channels like a hawk.

    Classic business problems but interesting how they show themselves in this era when you have technology adopters and good communicators and some not. The luddites are going to be filling their diapers with the owners' new phone system and change decisions.
     
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    Wisdom for a generation right there.
     
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