A Build for Brainy: Carved Walnut

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  1. nosmo

    nosmo Friend of Leo's

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    Seriously, I think it is easier to get low action WITH a zero fret.

    The set up is much easier. The nut just holds the string spacing so you don't have to file the slots to a perfect depth, you just have to be sure they're deep enough for the strings to break over the zero.

    Food for thought: How does a capo work?
     
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  2. R. Stratenstein

    R. Stratenstein Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Well, since you put it that way . . .but it still just don't seem right.

    Sigh. . OK, send me 100 ft. of that special zerofretwire, specially bent for compound fretboards.
     
  3. nosmo

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    You want it bent? Lemesee, 100 ft, bending, shipping........carry the 3............That's gonna cost you a fortune!
     
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    No problem. Put it on my account.
     
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    I built a bass with a zero fret, just another fret. Set up is stupid simple (my speed), action is great. Fine looking guitar Nosmo!
     
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    Ohhhh, zerofretwire, Shiny!
     
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    Doesn't a nut do the exact same thing as a nut&zero fret though? Or are you saying that it's just better because it gets rid of the task of filing the nut slots to plane of the fretwire tops?
     
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    Zero frets are great!!! They are called "zero" frets after the amount of hassles they give you in the building and the setting up of them. The "nut" is actually just a string guide that ensures the string doesn't slide off the end of the fret. It is the "Keep it simple stupid" of building a neck! It's "simple" to do and I'm too "stupid" to do it better the other way! :cry:

    DC
     
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    Sorry. I've had little time for building or updates of my own thread. In addition to finding pictures that look like images that others find in other people's headstocks, I'm also finding myself in near meaningless debates on Bad Dog Cafe. Be patient. I hope there is a generous bounce back when I hit rock bottom. Till then, my posts may get worse.

    This. This makes sense to me. Thank you.
     
  10. R. Stratenstein

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    Yes, that's it exactly. Some of us really sweat filing the nut slots just exactly to the right depth. I eventually get it more or less right, but sometimes ruin a blank or two, an there's always a wee bit of doubt, could I squeeze a little better action out of this if I file just a bit more. Then--dagnab it, filed too low! Time for new nut, or baking soda & CA, which works wonderfully well, but just doesn't seem right. I don't like doing it on a guitar for myself, and would never let a guitar for someone else out of my shop that had had that done. Even though, so far as I can tell, it is perfectly fine, and a permanent fix.
     
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    So I can either make a nut OR slot for a zero fret and make/install string guides to keep the strings from wandering around.
    Sounds like the same amount of work to me, only different kind of work.
    I'll stick to regular nuts on my guitars. However, a brass bolt works great on my CBG's. It's a nut/zero fret with built in string guides that you put in a groove and viola.
     
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  12. nosmo

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    My speed too. Thanks.

    As far as I can tell, a regular nut has at least 3 functions. It keeps the string spacing. It controls the height of the strings over the frets. And it transfers the vibration of the strings to the neck (this is why nuts are always made out of hard substances rather than, say, marshmallows).

    A zero fret takes care of the last two functions, so the nut just has to keep the strings in line.

    You and me both brother!

    I look forward to worse posts.

    Made sense to me.

    Save your baking soda for.............baking stuff. Go zero and you won't go back.

    Whatever works for you. You know, if you wanted the top of the strings to be even (like for a lap steel) you just about have to use a normal nut.
     
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    Catching slowly up... very nice build - perfect. and that sloth makes it perfecter:D
     
  14. nosmo

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    Thank you sir. I aim to please.
     
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    Any luck on getting someone to demo this Nosmo? Would love to hear it!
     
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    Not yet, but I'll keep trying.
     
  17. R. Stratenstein

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    Cmon, Nosmo, I publicly humiliated myself with rotten playing, you can favor us with a couple of chords. You only get a few mean-spirited and snide PM's, and the bricks thrown through your windows stops in a week or two.
     
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    What would the punishment be if I had YOU play it for me?

    I mean.......besides the playing?




    :):)
     
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    Deal. Ship her over.

    No, wait a minute, I just realized this gives me an excuse I can use on Mrs. Stratenstein for going to Houston in two weeks!:p:cool:

    This will be great. Catch the birds in SB LI, and get a free new guitar. Uh, of course, I mean get to play a new guitar.

    After the game I will need to take it back to my digs so I can use my amp and my camera to shoot the video, cuz it will make me more comfortable, but I'll be sure to send it right back soon as I can. Course U unnastan that after paying scalper prices for Super Bowl tickets, and jacked-up SB week prices at area hotels, and sampling ALL of the Pappas restaurants repeatedly, Ill be tapped out for a year or two, but you can trust me. For something.
     
  20. nosmo

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    Well.......let me see if I can find someone local first.

    Not that I don't think you're good for it.
     
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