A-bomb delivery Lancaster vs B29 - 1945

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  1. EddieLocrian

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    I never knew this, turns out the British Lancaster was in the running to deliver the A-bombs in 1945.

    Check this out:




    (BTW this guy is like the 'That Pedal Show' for WW2 stuff)


    Ok - Eddie.
     
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    So was the Consolidated B-32 Dominator. A plane fraught with problems.
     
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    Could have , should have , would have . The B-29 did the task and we aren't interested in British propaganda .
     
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    Who is ‘we’?

    Found it quite interesting. Just an awful time in human history.
     
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    And we are equally uninterested in US propaganda.
     
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    LOL. Sounds like a meeting a NATO HQ...best to do business on the coffee/tea break.
     
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    Interesting to wonder how the war would have played out if it wasn’t the US carrying the bombs, The drop over Nagasaki specifically being that it was a plan B. Would they British have been as successful in avoiding fire in Kokura? If they had been would they have headed for Nagasaki running so low on fuel?
    What would Britain look like today if they had been the face of that display of power? So many questions and ideas ripe for fiction
     
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    When I was going to A@P school in Frederick Md back in 82 we went on a field trip to Paul E. Garber Preservation, Restoration, and Storage Facility in Suitland, Md.
    They had the Enola Gay in pieces preparing to restore it. We had the run of the facility and I climbed aboard the fuselage and was able to sit in the co-pilot and pilots seat which were still mounted inside the plane. Pretty sobering when it comes down to it.

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    When I was in the Air Force, a B-29 that had been on static at my training base (Chanute AFB IL) was segmented and put on carriers for a trip west. Got to see it in loaded up for the big send off, and then for four years after when that same plane was reassembled at my first duty station (Castle AFB CA). Still sits there, great museum last time I saw it on a trip through there.

    https://www.castleairmuseum.org/ (they have a Blackbird as well, arrived a year before I did; there's another near the flightline at Beale up in Yuba Cty).

    And LOL @ US provincialism in this thread.
     
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    "We" needs to also include French army forces about equal in number to the American forces, a successful French naval blockade of the Chesapeake and endemic malaria that put about half Cornwallis' men out of fighting shape. Was a lot more going on than what I learned in school.
     
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    Are you for real.You’re obviously not a man of letters.

    As a WELSHMAN. Not an ENGLISHMAN. I don’t care about English imperialism/colonialism 300 years ago.
     
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    Are you for real.You’re obviously not a man of letters.

    As a WELSHMAN. Not an ENGLISHMAN. I don’t care about English imperialism/colonialism 300 years ago.
     
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    My ancestor, Dutch Admiral Micheal DeRuyter, kicked some French and British butt in the great Naval battles of the 17th century. Just sayin'...
     
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    He does do a helluva good job with his YouTube channel. Haven't had time to watch this episode yet.
     
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    This is all kind of irrelevant cause building the bomb was the accomplishment, not dropping it.

    The UK would probably never have built the bomb under the pressure it was under.

    The B-29 was a far later/more modern aircraft than the Lancaster and would always have been the more obvious choice for the mission. The B-29 was much faster, flew much higher, and had a gross takeoff weight double that of the Lancaster.

    The more interesting story with the Lancaster IMO is the "skip bombing" used to bomb dams in continental Europe.

    By the way anyone who is remotely interested needs to have the USAF museum in Dayton Ohio on their bucket list. Bochscar (Nagasaki) is on display there.

    Bang for buck for one location I think it's probably hard to argue against the USAF museum being the best one in the US, maybe in the world, but I bet there's some aviation museum in Moscow or something that would blow my mind.

    This internet argument only happens cause the B-29 was never deployed over Europe cause the Germans were hosed by the time it was ready. The B-29 would have just rained terror over Europe without anything being able to threaten it flying 30,000ft+ at 300mph+ and dropping bombs anywhere in Europe with little chance of fighters intercepting it and it would not have even had to be based in the UK like our other bombers.. it could have flown in from bases in Iceland that would have been way out of reach of ever being attacked by the Luftwaffe.
     
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