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$90 amps that prove my life is a lie

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by dmfp123, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. Fretting out

    Fretting out Poster Extraordinaire

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    Do what!?

    Which universe were you living in 15 years ago?

    I don’t ever recall any tube amps for 90 bucks

    I’m not trying to be disrespectful I’m genuinely curious what tube amps you could get for 90 dollars 15 years ago?
     
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  2. Jeremy_Green

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    Recording with a small amp has never been an issue - it’s gigging or jamming with one is where the problem lies. They’ve been recording with small amps since the earliest days.
     
  3. gusfinley

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    There were a slew of them in the $100 - $150 range in the early-mid 2000's:

    Epiphone Valve Junior
    Blackhart Little Giant
    Electar Tube 10
    Fender Champ 600
    Vox AC4TV

    Even until recently you could get this one for around $100 USD:

    https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611705
     
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    I remember the valve jr that’s the only one I could think of

    Blackhart sounds familiar
     
  5. dmfp123

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    silvertones come to mind
     
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    I was thinking brand new in production amps, the valve jr came close but 90 is a bit extreme
     
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    well yeah, current production it's been more than 15 years, lol

    BUT, the availability of... "pawn shop steals" are definitely at an all-time low. The internet discovered all the hidden gems, proclaimed them as such, and now they're not hidden gems anymore
     
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    Bought my Monoprice 5watt Stage Right 6v6, 12ax7 amp for 99.00 on sale a year or so ago.
     
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    I second this motion. I still have functioning 4x6 cabinets from a Crate "mini-stack" I bought when I was 19 and didn't know any better. I thought it was Metal As Forks, but after comparing its sound to some tube amps, I had to concede it sounded more like fuzz than anything. Those cabinets make anything you put through them sound like wasps in a jar. My current plan is to buy some decent speakers and convert them to 1x12s (there is room in the cabs).

    I predict these little amps would sound just fine through a cab that actually moves some air. Maybe even in conjunction with, so you can have some girth but still cut the mix.
     
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    Great sound, but I'll keep using my Bassbreaker 15. But if I was broke, needed an amp, I would be ordering one.
     
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    You're gonna throw away a good amp because of youtube vids? Maybe if your purpose playing music is to upload gear demos to youtube!

    Seriously, I know you can get great sounds out of cheap amps and gear. But it's a lot easier to get great sounds out of good to great gear isn't it? In my experience a lot of cheaper stuff that sounds great solo just doesn't work in a band setting.
     
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    I owned a valve jr, it was fun. The Blackheart little giant was a good little amp.
     
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    This ^ - I also have an orange crush ldx35 and it’s a great bedroom/small venue amp, sounds great, very versatile, doesn’t weigh a ton and can take a beating. I use this anytime my dsl40 is too much...
     
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    There were some good clean tones in that video. The distorted tones were trash IMHO.

    For me it showed how damn great the SM57 is. Keep in mind, close mic'ing the cab is taking advantage of proximity effect to add a little bass.

    Makes wonder about a setup with (2) tiny cabs (3.5" speakers or something) inside a mini isolation cab or portion of closet.

    For mini amp, still loving the FLY 3 ;)
     
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    I also didn't mention that the Fender Mustang LT25 and the Yamaha THR amps have amazing sound quality recording direct through their USB out.
     
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    So, to summarize

    -Everyone agrees they sound good clean
    -(Mostly) everybody agrees they sound awful dirty
    -Those who caught that the discussion is about studio use agree getting them would be a solid idea
    -Those who did not are quite upset about the idea of someone using one live
     
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    The video left out the Roland Cube amps.
    They have a large and dedicated user group.
    Had it been included, it might have skewed the trajectory of the comments here perhaps (?)
     
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    Like 25 years ago I recorded a demo at home with a small "Park" SS practice amp – which looked like a Marshall – my roommate owned. Played quietly the tone was better than my Mesa Boogie. About the same time I was in hip hop band and used what was provided. They had a Marshall "Anniversary" stack that sounded great but when that was gone I just plugged my tele into the little Marshall Lead 12 (or something like that) and was equally happy. These small Marshall solid state amps just work great IMHO.
     
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    Many studio recordings use practice amps to get their tones set up. I saw one that used a battery powered amp stuck inside a wood stove fireplace insert.

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    I didn't watch the whole thing, but did they mention the rest of the chain/processing that was used?

    I like dumb little amps, but I think this is a bit of a silly discussion.
    • For someone first picking up an electric guitar, cool, great stuff.
    • For somebody with a developing ear and interest in studio recording, eh, seems like there are much better options for $200-250, and more importantly, the term "budget" just starts to really change meanings once you get into Studio Gear Land.
    • For live, I mean, there's some uses, but they would be in the irony zone, kids in garages, or experimental.
    Everyone (rightfully) craps on the overdrive tones, but these things can kick ass for recording "lofi" gritty vocals (ala the first Strokes record).
     
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