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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by charlie chitlin, Jan 8, 2021.
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Might as well throw my close cousin into the thread - it's a '79, bought when I was 18 and still my favourite electric 25 years later. I have a '65 as well and I still prefer the 70s one.
I've had 2 late long neck 330s in my life and could never bond with either of them...just lifeless. One I got in trade for a lifeless 67 335!
I'd love to try an earlier 330.
I've never played one.
The last straw for my last 330 was when I found a Casino I liked better.
The 330 was sooo beautiful, though.
It had this deep, rich honey-colored 2-tone burst...it took me months to realize it wasn't doing it for me.
In 1977, I joined my first country band. I had my '73 LP, but thought I should go more country so I found this '76 335 used and bought it. I played just a few shows with it then went to a borrowed Tele.
I found this guitar to be very hard to play. Every time I tried to stretch a string, my finger would roll over it, so it sat in my closet for about 40 years.
In Jan of 2014, I broke the head off of my LP on the week of it's 40th birthday. Fortunately, we have a great Luthier in this area - Ross Jennings. While he was fixing the LP, I drug out the 335 and tried to play it - same problem. So, I took it to Ross to find out what the problem was. The frets were pristine as they had never really been played. He took a look then got out his measuring tool - the frets were only .022 tall. This guitar was one of the "fretless wonders" from that era.
So, I took the leap of faith and let Ross put some new frets on it (wanted to see how that went before I did the LP). The guitar played like a totally different instrument. While I still took the LP to all the rock band shows, the 335 went to all the Blues Jams and any country gigs I picked up.
The picture above is from my first and only time getting to play at Gruene Hall - it was on my 61st birthday. I've fallen back in love with that guitar and it is now one of my favorites. While I've gone back to a Tele for country, I'm never afraid to pull it out for anything from rock to country.
That's in nice nick, enjoy!
Ever hold a large block of hard maple? Very heavy wood, as guitar woods go. My more modern 335 is 8.5 lbs, but I still think it's the best guitar I own.
Yours is unspeakably gorgeous. Love the tailpiece! So clean, too!
Push down on the tailpiece and you've got a whammy...
I love the Sunburst ES-335 over the "Cherry" finish any time. Nice nice piece!
Having had several ES-335's over the years (60's - 90'), I really don't find them ever being "heavy", most that I've owned or played have been around 8lbs. I only have one ES-335 now, it's a kinda rare 1985 ES-335 "Studio" model, not hollow, but chambered, no f holes like a "Lucille", in fact it was based on the BB King model but without all the "glitz" and meant as a studio 335 absent the feedback howl issues ES-335 have. And it only weighs 8lbs 12oz despite not being fully hollow (the chambers are big). I love this axe and it's hotter "Hot Fingers" pickups than a standard ES-335 gets and the "fine-tuning" stop bar from the factory.
The other NOT A 335 is the pretty rare ES150DW only made in the '60s, this is my 1968 with a "walnut color" finish. Meant for Jazz and Big Band use, it's body is the same thickness as a ES-175 and also fully hollow with a center block. It has a Master Volume in the upper right bout. Think of it as a "Fat 335" but a bit more mellow.
I have some old Gibson brochures somewhere. I recall that in the early 70s Gibson made a big thing about some changes they were making
1) Narrower nut
2) 90 degree neck angle
3) Neck volute
My Medallion Flying V had all of these and was the only Gibson I owned until 1980 when I bought my Gibson Heritage Series LP. The wider nut was a revelation.
I sold the V years ago but recently bought a Custom Shop ‘67 V which is a better instrument but still has the narrow nut. It’s playable and dare I say fun. Just not as versatile.
I know they used to be worth substantially less than a 335...I suppose that has changed.
I always thought Gibsons needed a master volume.
I used to make larger pick guards, put a MV on them and run the wires into the f hole.
I played an ES150D for the first time the year before last, really fun guitar. I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did, but I'd definitely have room for one of them in my life.
I find 335s usually come in around 8-8.5lb, but I have one that's 9.5lb and I've seen them as heavy as 10. The heaviest ones tend to be 345s and 355s with a vibrato and the varitone circuit, which included a heavy metal choke what sits under the bridge pickup.
A 90 DEGREE Neck Angle???? Do you know what a 90 degree would look like? Like a Medieval Lute!! 90 degress is this - L
Gibson DID change the peghead angle and added a "volute" to strengthen it from the cursed too easy "headstock snap" and solve the horrible tuning issues, and they also changed the neck angle several times since ALL the GIbson hollow and semi-hollow body model originated to solve pickup height limitations, body bowing, also added a center block to stop neck joint cracking and breakage. Feel free to do a better research into all those dates and angles, better than your one stating the neck angle was 90 degrees! Gibson has been using around 6 degrees if I remember correctly on more recent ES335 family guitars.
While ALL Fender solid-body guitars have essentially ZERO neck angle, using shims has always been using in our design and production to accommodate hardware use, and even an adjustable neck plate, starting the falsely much maligned 3-Bolt Neck Plate of the 70's to the 4-Bolt Micro Adjustable plate of the 80's and 90's were meant to let both the factory and owner make some change to the angle for whatever reasons.
Here are some fun links to explore Neck Angle's including how to calculate one that is appropriate if you're building a guitar.
Why have a neck angle on a guitar?
Neck Angle Calculator
I use this all the time when building custom hollow bodies.